To the people who feel the need to constantly bash Dame

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    As someone who harps on his shot selection a lot here, I thought he was fine last night. Only took like 3 or 4 truly bad shots. Felt CJ was worse in that respect.

    Both of em made some shit decisions about driving through double teams though. They're really good at splitting double teams, but they were getting squeezed last night.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to debate ignorance. Either they know the game or they don't.
     
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    But tonight, a lot of those misses, were just misses, where he was either open or facing single coverage. Klay Thompson was playing great D on him, and Dame tried to force it 1 on 1 several times and failed.

    And we've seen the stats on Damian's FG% in the 4th quarter. More often than not, he fails at hero ball. He needs better team-mates, but if he gets them, he also needs to break this habit. Your starts are supposed to pick up in the playoffs, and if Dame's performance was a key factor in the loss. He doesn't shine in the big moments like Brandon Roy did.

    Drexler was the same way, great player, but wasn't exactly a big moment player.
     
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    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Dame's shot selection is better when others are hitting, or when the offense is moving. When everyone stands around and he has to take a shot with 3 seconds on the clock he's more likely to miss.

    Of course he can improve. Hell, people were talking about Curry being Most Improved because he got better over last year's MVP season. But the best that can be done for Dame is to improve the players around him. These guys have played their guts out, no doubt. Just throw in a reliable scorer (Durant!) and see how good Dame will be.
     
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    So many strawmen being built and knocked down in this thread.

    Dame played his heart out. He almost willed the team to tie up the series. I'm incredibly glad he's a Blazer for life.

    But some posters here need to back off with calling anybody a hater that questions his shot selection at times. Seeing area for improvement doesn't equate to hate. Take a step back and chill a little.
     
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  6. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    All I gotta say is, "you got to make your freethrows".
     
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    What pisses me off is we got a great scoring night from our bench and role players. They had a combined 27 points on 10 for 19 shooting from Allen Crabbe, Gerald Henderson and Ed Davis, plus Aminu was killing as well but the problem was we didn't get a good and decently efficient game from Lillard. His ugly 9 for 30 from the field, 5 for 18 from three point range killed us.

    If he was just normal Dame we win this game and it's 2-2 right now
     
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    At the end of the day, the Blazers only realistic goal here was to not get embarassed by the Warriors. We got blown out in game 1, but all the other contests have been good. Whether we lose 4-2 or 4-1.
     
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  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm talking about the people shitting on him in the game thread. Not the people discussing his shot selection in separate threads after the game.
     
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    Mad props @yuyuza1



    Anyone who is on Lillard for lack of efficiency, should also be on CJ.
    If you're not, your opinion becomes a biased opinion. aka invalid.
    9-23, 5 turnovers, 3 assists, 3 steals, 3 rebounds, 2-2FT - CJ's line in g4.
    9-30, 3 turnovers, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 13-16FT - Lillard's line in g4.
    The difference is, Lillard got to the FT line and didn't stand there chucking contested jumpers.
    Neither shot well. Neither played particularly well.


    To say this, is asinine when you leave out CJ.
     
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    CJ was just as bad, don't leave him out.

    You will, because you hate dame and also the team, but if you're a fair criticizer (which you are not) you would do that.

    In the end, everything you say is meaningless because you don't have logic or levity.
     
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    Realistically CJ and Dame are held to different standards, as should be the case today.

    Nobody is criticizing Montero for not carrying the team to victory.
     
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    That doesn't make any sense, on both fronts.

    CJ is our #2... he does get held to the same standard as Dame. Because without Dame, we need CJ, and without CJ, we need Dame. They go hand in hand this year.
     
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    CJ is more 1B when you talk to Dame and Stotts. He definitely does (and should) get held to the same standard. You better believe CJ holds himself to it.

    The gap between CJ and Montero is 10 times as wide as the gap between CJ and Dame and that isn't an exaggeration. In fact it might be wider.
     
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    Yep. There's really no debate on it. CJ made himself to be held to the same standard. I really see no counter-argument to it.
     
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    It's going to be horrible next season when Lillard's new contract kicks in.

    "Lillard isn't a max player."

    "Lillard's contract is hurting the team, there is no way to sign stars with that contract on the books."


    And then it will get even worse the season after that when CJ's max/near max contract kicks in.
     
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    The second one won't be true, because we'll have a star on our team next year.

    He's called Damian Lillard.
     
  19. blazerboy30

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    Then you disagree with the Blazer organization. They haven't given CJ the keys to the franchise like they have Dame.

    I don't see people claiming that CJ was an all-star snub.

    CJ was nowhere in sight in the MVP voting.

    It's ridiculous to put them at the same level today, whether CJ has tried to do that himself or not.
     
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    People bitch that we're overpaying Aminu.
     
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