Skip Bayless at it again: LaMarcus "still has too much Portland Trail Blazers in him"

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  1. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Damn Daniel, back at it with the disrespect.
     
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  2. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Who's whining?

    Barkley wanted to be traded here. Never signed with us when he could have. No one has. You can grasp at whatever it is you are grasping at, I choose to look at history, and make an opinion from that. I could be wrong, and hope I am. History tells us big white American born centers probably aren't worth lottery picks. History tells us guys from Syracuse aren't winners in the NBA. History tells us high lottery picks are usually the best players. I hope Lebron and Durant both sign here and we win the next 10 championships in a row, but I choose to look at things more realistically. But hey, realistically this team probably should have missed the playoffs, so who knows? I'm expressing an opinion. I know it's not a popular one, but there is no reason to call a poster, or insinuate a poster is a whiney bitch because they choose to view things differently than you.
     
  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    We all have, multiple times
     
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    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    Well, in your time away I've looked a little bit into "history," and it's not good. I've mentioned it a couple of times, so apologies to everyone else reading this:

    There is exactly ONE team who has won a championship since 1980 that didn't have one of the following characteristics:
    1) In what is currently a top 15 media market.
    2) Had LBJ or Tim Duncan on their team.

    That one team was the Wade/Shaq Heat. So, yeah, we need to get a top 10 all time player on our team - so do half the team's in the league... Interestingly, this information has not turned me into a curmudgeon. However, it has turned me into a conspiracy theorist!

    So, in response to your post:
    History tells me we need to find a transcendent player and that nothing else really matters. It also tells me we won't be able to (Greg Oden was our chance). So, our only real hope is for the team to move to Seattle. Go PNW Blazers!

    p.s. Seattle is 12th in media market size:
    http://www.janson.com/rights/top-50-u-s-markets/
     
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    If it doesn't happen soon then I have reservations about the long term health of this franchise. You can only sell the same cheap rebuild model so many times before it becones obvious it won't work.
     
  6. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Ive never bought in to media market. I think it coincides with where players want to be. The Clippers, Knicks and Nets show us it's not all about media. If we draft Durant over Oden, Jordan over Bowie, or call heads, we have multiple championships. Transcendent player is key. Portland has never landed one in FA. Hopefully we can trade for one
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Now I know for sure you DEFINITELY haven't met my sister! :lol:
     
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    What the hell is a transcendent player??? Give me a f-cking break. Walton and Drexler were two of the greatest basketball players in league history. The league media/agenda keeps Portland small. The media chooses to underhype our players unless it's absolutely certain they are All Stars. There are columnists to this day who complain Walton got the 78 MVP. People like Bill Simmons who view us as a bunch of "soccer moms" are as much responsible to this over generalized garbage. But let's not help them paint ourselves as a bunch of small market doinks. As if Portlandia wasn't bad enough!
     
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    As a Ravens fan as well, I've basically grown immune to stuff like what Bayless said today. It is what it is. I wonder his reaction would be if the Spurs lose tomorrow.
     
  10. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Its literally been 40 plus years.
    And we were great with both of them. Got 1 with the first pick and another through the draft also.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    I think we have the next one already and we drafted him too:

    http://bkref.com/tiny/lH0r6
     
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    Aldridge never had an ounce of Rip City in him, and this season proved he's been holding us back since we got him.

    Probably misunderstood what it meant when asked to be the anchor in our defense.

    I was floored that SA wanted such a standoffish head case with less fire in him than a used up can of Sterno. With his pouting and Duncan retiring I see Leonard demanding a trade in a year or 2. The signing that ended a dynasty.
     
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    You know what I like about Skip Bayless?




    Fuck Skip Bayless.
     
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  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Wrong. We didn't "get bad enough to get Lillard". New Jersey got bad enough, and dumb enough to give us the 6th pick for a past his prime Gerald Wallace.

    Why does winning 40-something games automatically equal being stuck in Purgatory? The Warriors went from winning 47 games to 51 to 67 and a championship without any big name free agent signings. They grew from within. All five of their current starters were already on the roster of that 47-win team. They went from 47 wins to 67 wins in two years due mostly to internal growth with a few roster tweaks that bolstered their bench. We have the means and ability to do the same.

    Why does it have to be a free agent signing? That's not the only way to acquire talent. Cap space can also be used in a lopsided trade for high priced talent. What big free agent did the 2004 Pistons sign during the summer of 2003? None, they got the final piece, Sheed in a mid-season trade. What big name free agents did the 2006 Celtics sign in the summer of 2005? None, Garnett and Ray Allen were both acquired via trade. What big name free agents did the 2007 Lakers sign during the summer of 2006? None they added Pau Gasol via trade.

    We have a lot of cap space we can use in a lopsided trade, we also have a lot of young players on very reasonable contracts. We don't need to limit our options to just signing a big same free agent. We can also acquire talent via a lopsided trade from a team like MEM that will likely be rebuilding. We can also pick up talent via lopsided trade from teams trying to clear cap space to land a big name like Kevin Durant. Several teams will try to land him, but only one will be successful. Neal Olshey is smart enough to take advantage of other teams' desperation.

    It takes an extremely negative, pessimistic person to consider the season we just watched as "stuck in purgatory". Yeah, we only won 44 games and didn't make it past the second round, but if you didn't enjoy this season and this team, I truly feel sorry for you. We didn't win the championship, but neither will 28 other teams and I'd take our season over all of those teams.

    We had the youngest team in the playoffs and third youngest in the entire league. Our young players got a lot of valuable experience that will help them continue to improve. Other than Kaman, who hardly played, we don't have a single player on our roster that is past their prime. Our young guys will continue to improve. How is that being "stuck in purgatory"? I know you'd prefer we suck and dip down into the lottery, but how has that worked for PHI? They have gone from 41 wins to 35 to 34 to 19 to 18 to 10. To me, that is the definition of being stuck in purgatory. Six seasons of progressively worse results. A lot of good all those lottery picks have done them.

    Take heart Mediocre one, our future is much brighter than you think. We will add some pieces this summer. Perhaps not THE big name piece we all dream about, but pieces that will help make us better, plus our young guys will continue to get better. None of them have reached their peak, which means 44 wins and a hard fought second round exit against the 73-win defending champs is not our team's peak either. Purgatory never looked so good!

    BNM
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Right about Lillard, wrong about the rest
     
  18. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I'm certainly no bible expert, but I didn't get rape out of that. I got, if you get caught getting it on with an unwed young lady, you have to pay damages to her dad and marry her....wonder how much you have to pay if she was married?
     
  19. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

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    Sounds like a shotgun wedding almost
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Fraid not...

    Fact.

    Fact.

    Fact.

    Fact.

    Fact.

    More facts.

    Fact.

    Still more facts.

    A proven fact. That's how we got Rolo (NOP desparate to clear cap space to sign Tyreke Evans) and how he got Chris Paul when he was with the Clippers (NOP desparate to move a disgruntled superstar before he left via free agency and they got nothing in return).

    More facts.

    Fact and fact.

    All facts.

    Sorry, but exactly where was I "wrong" about the rest?

    BNM
     
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