Not when it started..Slack key guitarists in Hawaii were lucky to get recorded before they passed away of old age.
These decisions and questions should not be political, but handled by the markets. Having Politician make judgments best handled by the market place does not serve the unskilled and beginners It does serve the politicians though, gives them a white hat. err, the allusion of the white hat.
So you support a system where businesses set a wage that a full time person still qualifies for welfare and you're just fine with paying that bill as a taxpayer? Walmart is the largest private employer in the USA, the average employee makes $8.80 and $15k a year. Federal poverty level is $20k. So we taxpayers get to pay for welfare, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc. But your answer is they shouldn't inconvenience the business, they should just find higher paying employment! Except we're talking about 2.1mill employees. And this is just Walmart alone. I mean I think it's very nice of you to want to pay for all of that welfare but I don't. I also don't want to subsidize Walmart's low wages with my tax dollars. I believe if a person works full time they should earn a living wage, shouldn't qualify for welfare and shouldn't need it.
It doesn't work that way. The businesses has to pay what it takes to get a worker to sell his labor to the business. If the price become too high to make a profit then the business owner must look for alternatives or fold. Of course in the past many years now, the process has been unbalanced by un-check immigrations that has loaded the system with an abundance of labor. But it worked before this era. If you check the real value of the minimum wage, it has been much higher than the current goal of $15/hour. An in fact in those days, many many jobs payed higher wages just to attract the workers.
If you're going to keep making excuses then you don't get to complain about the taxes pay you towards welfare. So if Walmart has to pay a wage that is means their employees don't qualify for welfare then they can't make a profit? That sounds like a problem with their business model. If the only way you can make a profit is via the government subsidizing the wages of your employees then maybe you shouldn't be in business.
No, I'm a republican, you wanting to give welfare to people and businesses, be involved in every aspect of their lives means you're the demo, my friend. I learned a long time ago there are Chiefs and Indians in this world. If someone wants to be an Indian then good for them. God bless them. That's up to them. Personally I'm a Chief but it doesn't mean much to be a Chief if there are no Indians. All I ask from my fellow Americans is to get up, work hard, pay your taxes and take care of you and yours. You're the one who wants to get the government and your tax dollars involved in all of this. Government legislation setting a wage or government agencies paying for welfare, food stamps, and housing. And you're saying that raising minimum wage while reducing the size and need of multiple government agencies and the amount of my taxes needed makes me the democrat?!?
Very good Sly. Now you are getting close. If the labor market were not flooded then Walmart might not find employees at the wage they pay. In fact their model might need to change to make their profit. Perhaps they would not be able to run the small shops out of every town they move into. Perhaps the the market would level and there would be no need for the government to subsidize any workers in that sector.
Naw, I didn't say this. But I did chide you for repeating a Democrat talking point that does get us off on the wrong course.
I don't know, but even if the answer is none and it likely is, it does not mean the labor market is not over stocked. The fact that Walmart can hire people at such a low wage, prettly much says it is over stocked. All the illegal at large have this effect plus the crappy economy to boot.
The minimum wage in 1968 before we were over run with immigration was 1.60/hr which adjusted to 2016 dollars is about 11.20 (I think it's more than that). But the point is almost no business in that day paid the minimum wage, they paid more in order to hire the help. https://www.dol.gov/featured/minimum-wage/chart1
At some point we are going to have to reassess our entire set up of having jobs pay for living. With technology filling in the holes and outcompeting humans we as a society are not going to need most people to work. Of course, we will still need people to make enough to survive, and do something that is important enough to keep people involved in the world and happy to grow and expand. But working shitty jobs isn't going to be the answer. Most likely, it's going to be more people going into art, into sciences, going into craftsmanship, and fewer people woking on a line doing routine shit just to keep them busy. It's going to be the biggest shift in mankind since the dawn of the computer age, and perhaps since fire. To shift away from the entire construct that jobs are imperative to being successful and move towards more moneyless system where social norms and personal ambition push people towards greater, loftier goals than earning another dollar.
I believe computer related jobs were the last new industry to create many good paying jobs in the USA. Many people where able to shift their careers into computer related jobs as their old jobs were phased out, some lost due to automation. Other jobs were lost due to environmental concerns; many jobs went to other countries that paid less. What needs to happen to create more good paying jobs is the discovery of the next new industry. What that industry is, I do not have a clue. But it will eventually happen. And it will create a lot of new jobs. I just hope the USA is in the forefront of the new industry, and not some other country like China or India. What has kept us a super power has been our ability to discover the next new industry. If I was young and just starting out looking for my career, I would get into the medical profession. There are many medical related jobs that pay decent to good wages. Job security appears to be healthy as far out as can be predicted. BTW, I have never been tazered by a self-checkout machine. But I have had more than one checker that looked like they wanted to.
It strikes me every so often that we are in an in between time with the new era about to unfold with a new mission for men. Otherwise he is screwed.
