Trade Would you trade CJ... The Super Duper Trade Thread!

Hopefully! People said Harkless had a decent 3P% early in his career. He's definitely got much better form than Aminu.

 

But George is only 26.. he just turned 26..... Why can't he be part of the future? He's a top 10 talent in the NBA. George is arguably the ceiling for Irving.

 

Looking at the drafts between 1990 and 2010, the #2 pick has resulted in an all-star 42.9% of the time, and a starter 81.0% (started over half the games they played). That means 19.0% of the drafts, the #2 pick did not even result in a starter quality player.

Some past #2 picks:
2010: Evan Turner ("starter". Has barely started over half his games.)
2009: Hasheem Thabeet (not a starter)
2008: Michael Beasley (not a starter)
2007: Kevin Durant (All-Star)
2006: LaMarcus Aldridge (All-Star)
2005: Marvin Williams (Starter)
2004: Emeka Okafor (Starter)
2003: Darko Milicic (not a starter)
2002: Jay Williams (starter)
2001: Tyson Chandler (All-Star)
2000: Stromile Swift (not a starter)

CJ is already playing at an all-star level in my opinion (although not yet an all-star). On top of that, he's a quality teammate. I'm sticking with CJ.

 

And unless LBJ decides to come out West he'll be at least 29 before he as a shot at getting his team to the Finals. And by then BOS may be the dominant team - or even PHI!

 

Belatedly I agree . . . You'd probably have to get Dame to agree, and I don't see that happening -- those two are like brothers . . .

 

Defending guards in the NBA.

 

This. He has Hardenitis in the post season. Like Harden he faces better defenders and better refs in the playoffs and his game suffers. Plus, he wants a max deal starting at $25 million.

If he's cheap enough, I'd sign him as a back-up small ball center, but he won't be cheap enough. He's too undersized to be a full time starting center and does not have the shooting touch to play PF under Terry Stotts (or anyone, really). With the cap going way up, Biyombo will be overpaid by someone.

BNM

 

No.

 

Definitely not for Noel, I don't like Noel's offense even if his defence is very good. Okafor has a higher ceiling IMO for future, he'll find it easier to improve the D than Noel will to develop consistent scoring threat. And I wouldn't even do this for Okafor, CJ for me is a player we need to be building around. Try moving other pieces for Okafor if it's possible at all but avoid using CJ in a possible trade.

 

We're not trading CJ.

 

Looks at proposed trade:

 

I've said that the only way I think it benefits us is if the pick is used in trade. NOT as a roster spot.

If we get rid of CJ, we MUST get equal or more value back. Yes it may take CJ+?, but I don't want to trade him for two or three role players, or a young potential prospect from the draft. Must be a proven all star or we wont be improving the team.

 

These are always a bit unfair. Bad teams are constantly in the lottery, but when good teams get their due to trades or injuries, those picks are different. For example, Portland probably would have drafted Dame #2 over Michael Kidd Gilchrist. In this particular draft, both Simmons and Ingram are thought to be really outstanding prospects. Instead of looking at who the 2nd pick was in certain drafts, look at who the 2nd and 3rd best players were. That is more likely who a good GM like Neil Olshey would draft.

 

Because you think CJ is untouchable?

 

I don't think CJ is an Untouchable I think he's a Kshatryia, you know a Warrior, King or a blazer.

 

Why would we trade CJ, a lottery pick who has proven his worth in actual NBA games, who is one-half of what is universally referred to as the second best back court in the NBA, and who is on the heals of 3 years of NBA experience and his second year of solid of playoff experience, for a lottery pick who has not proven himself or even played in the NBA?

We wouldn't.

You don't break up the "second best back court" in the NBA. You find other ways to improve your team.

 

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