The thing is, if I want to go in there, who gives a shit if it says "womens" room if they're really not gonna enforce the rules. If the mens room is occupied I'll go in the women's room if its single occupancy, fuck it son. Why restrict anyone from going in there and dropping a huge bomb, clogging up the toilet, pissing all over the toilet paper, etc. THATS WHAT WE DO, SON.
This is what i dont get about the arguement. If you had just shut up (you as in transgendered) and gone about your business, who would have known? But now that it is being made thjs big attention getting deal you are going to have morons groping you crocadile dundee style befor you take a leak. Im calling it manufacturing martyrdom.
My favlrite part of the manufactured martyrs of this county is not a single one of them would have the guts to go to war and get shot at. But they want to act like ripping up banners or standing on a flag is edgy. Go watch your buddy take a bullet to the face, then come back to the states and cry about how you are oppressed. Might put some thing in perspective.
SlyPokerDog is so ignorant he does not know that there is an ongoing fight for the right of transgender people to serve in the US armed forces. Many have in fact done so. Has he?
Yes, who can forget infamous transgender soldier Bradley/Chelsea Manning who committed espionage and leaked classified secrets as revenge against the system that supposedly bullied him/her/whatever.
It's funny: so much of progress in civil rights brings about backlash. Like: Lesbians could get away with pretty much living together openly at least before the early 20th century because nobody heterosexual imagined their existence. (Queen Victoria famously refused to believe there were lesbians.) But the minute they start speaking out and being open, there's a massive shitfit and you can imagine a whole bunch of old-school Lesbians reminiscing about the old days. Same with transgender individuals. Your "friend of a Facebook friend" (sounds like someone in those items forwarded on email by my mother in law) has already been in many bathrooms with people with male genitalia. But now they are asking for the right, suddenly everybody's having a hissy fit. Y'know, if I'd been raped with regularity by some family acquaintance I don't know what I'd think, but I think I'd be more afraid of my family than strangers. I hope some of her "Facebook friends" were a bit more sympathetic, and perhaps pointed out that, while being raped by a family acquaintance is depressingly common, there are so far no known instances of transgender individuals raping people in public restrooms. It is also so depressingly familiar that the big backlash against allowing transgender individuals the right to go where they'd probably being going anyway is couched in terms of "would you let your daughter..." It's always pitched to men as a violation of their duty to protect "their" vulnerable females. So the real subtext isn't even about the safety of girls (because, of course, this is not a real threat, certainly not in comparison with "normal" heterosexual men, as was the point of the original article, and no right-wingers are actually concerned with ending violence against girls, any more than they are interested in lowering the number of abortions by the most effective means of providing birth control) it's about men being emasculated. "Are you going to stand around and allow freaks to mess with your property? What kind of eunuch are you?"
I skimmed this through, I'm so tired right now. I hope I got the right idea from it...that is that people need to get over stupid shit. It reminds me of gun debates, have transgender people NOT been raping chicks in the bathroom because they are told they can't go in? The whole thing is ridiculous. True story from about 10 years ago. I was going to Las Vegas Athletic Club and one day in the men's locker room I bend over to tie my shoe and I look up and there are a pair of d cup titties in my face. I seriously thought I was in the wrong room. Then I got a look at a guy I can only describe as Iggy Pop with boobs. It shook me for a second but I quickly got over it.
Much of what you say is true. I'm sure transgender people have used the bathroom they preferred and nobody thought too much about it because, in most cases, they'd have no way of knowing. The issue only becomes a big deal when someone decides either to ban the practice or to mandate it. Then it becomes a big deal because people suddenly start thinking about who's going to be sharing their restroom facilities with them. I have little concern about transgender people being a safety concern to women in a public restroom setting, or anywhere else for that matter. I do have some concern about perverts who prey on women being inspired to make use of these new mandates to gain access to women in a vulnerable setting, but I suspect that's a pretty minor concern too. I was just trying to point out that there are people who are going to feel less safe and that their feelings matter too.
I think the main point of the anti-transgender-bathroomers is that rapists would go into the bathroom under the pretense of being "transgender". So her argument that "men are bad rapists" does not refute that point. She's also displaying the habit that annoys the hell out of me with liberals. They flip out if certain groups are painted with a "broad brush stroke" but other groups are fair game for ridiculous stereotyping. But that's another topic. I think that transgender people that have put a lot of effort into looking like the opposite gender, would cause less anxiety if they just went into the bathroom of the gender they are trying to look like. But if they're not doing that, and they just want to go into the opposite gender bathroom because they "feel like a man or woman". I think that's lame. If I felt like a woman I wouldn't go into a woman's bathroom and startle the women there. That would be a fucking stupid and selfish thing to do. While we want to give transgender people respect, they should give the rest of society respect, because the world doesn't revolve around them. In some cultures, men and women share the same public bathrooms, but in our culture we don't.
This is what is now illegal in NC. The law literally says this transgender man HAS to go in the bathroom with your daughters:
