ESPN NBA future: Power Rankings

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  1. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Funny how some writers omit the fact that other teams have a ton of space too.
     
  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    And added nothing to the thread. This article wasn't getting the soccer mom reaction you desire to prove that everyone else here are a bunch of clueless homers. So you thought you'd try to generate a reaction. It's called bating. Too bad we've all seen your stinky bait a hundred times and don't fall for it any more.

    BNM
     
  3. e_blazer

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    It's too simplistic to say that the Blazers only have room for one max contract. The Blazers are only committed to a bit over $50 million next season. There are cap holds on Crabbe, Harkless, Leonard, Alexander, Kaman, Roberts and Henderson, but Olshey could renounce the Blazers' rights to any or all of them if he wanted to pursue a couple of high-end free agents. He could also look for unbalanced trades to remove salaries of other players if he was so inclined. I doubt that he plans to do that, but he could if the right players were willing to sign here. Then he'd have to fill out the rest of the roster with minimum salary guys.
     
  4. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    Maybe maybe not. The cap space thing is overplayed because what tends to be omitted is how many players and who have to be renounced or options not picked up in order for them to have the space, Portland included. Example the spurs could have $22mil in cap space but would only have Aldridge, Leonard, Parker, Green and Mills under contract, leaving 10 roster spots to fill. They would have to rely on guys opting out and then renouncing them, or not picking up options on guys. Those guys are Duncan, Ginobili, Diaw, West, Boban, Miller, Martin, etc... So in essence they don't have a ton of cap space due to how the guaranteed salaries are aligned.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Simplistic, but probably accurate enough for the discussion. But if you feel better, I feel better
     
  6. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Which means there is a lot of assumption regarding the "money" ranking, wouldn't you say?
     
  7. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Well then, my work here is done.
     
  8. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I bet we'd be number 1 if we traded CJ.
     
  9. e_blazer

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    Here's a list from RealGM of the maximum amount of cap space all 30 teams can generate based on guaranteed contracts and renouncing all of their free agents.

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    I see that I cropped the chart a bit too much. The fourth column should read "Non-Guaranteed Contracts".
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Are you adding anything to the thead? Ironic, isn't it?
     
  11. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    The bottom of that chart makes me happy. Thanks for that. No. 1, not so much.
     
  12. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Does anyone know what this thread is about? Can you summarize in like, 6 words?
     
  13. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    My Lakers will be contending in NO time FAMS....... With THAT much money and the draw to play in Hollywood along side Ingram,Russel and the rest of these young guys sans Kobe.
     
  14. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    It wouldn't have to be minimum salary guys... We'd still have a partial MLE, a Cap Room Exception, and a Bi-Annual Exception
     
  15. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Thanks for this post!

    Would you guys agree that none of the teams above us in possible cap space are a more lucrative destination?

    Maybe Washington/Boston because they are fringe in the east which means they are a good player away from making the ECF each year. But at the same time if you put the Blazers in the East I think we would be in the ECF each year as is.
     
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    Teams with best outlook right now
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    No.

    Now that Kobe is gone the Lakets will start to attract more talent. Hell, Simmons already said he wants to go there. Unless I missed it, I don't hear that about Portland.

    Dallas has no state sales tax. Given the choice, they win.

    Washington is where KD is from, so.....

    Boston is probably at worst even with us.

    Philly is clown town
     
  18. e_blazer

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    Those are added to team salary in the off season, so in order to clear maximum cap space for 2 high dollar free agents, we'd have to renounce them as well.
     
  19. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I don't believe the partial MLE and Cap Room Exception are. Both are designed for teams with cap space so it'd make no sense to count them as cap space.
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    Garbage in, Garbage Out, Much Noise.
     

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