I did once intervene with strangers, but that was when a man was actually hitting a woman. I got between (about 5 or 6 men were just standing around) and the woman took off running. Then one of the men came up to me and explained, in most polite and rational tones, that I had no business interfering between A man and HIS woman (his pronouns, my emphasis), that she is his woman and if he wants to shoot her dead that is his right. What was scariest was that he was really trying to explain this to me in a reasonable fashion. You know, like you might explain why a person should wear seatbelts. As though it was just some basic fact that I for some reason was unaware of and he needed to just let me know.
Seriously though, I've done things and screamed at my wife. Things I'd rip someone's arm off and beat them to death with it for. I don't know why men are like that, but we are. Edit. I mean things if I caught someone else doing to her if it wasn't clear. I choked her old supervisor behind the machines at the computer chip plant we used to work at because he made her cry.
Bodyman, I never have figured out why it's OK for a man to shoot a woman dead on a Portland street. Or anywhere else, for that matter.
No "we" aren't. I have been with my significant other for almost 8 years. I have never hit her. I have never shoved her. I have never slapped her. I have never choked her. Hell, we hardly ever argue, and we've probably only raised our voices at each other a couple times in that span. Abusing your significant other is never okay. Not mentally or physically. The only time you're allowed to lay your hands on anyone (male or female) is to defend yourself. I don't believe that women should be allowed to hit men and expect no response. But I also don't want to be lumped in with men as a whole.
Sorry, we means man. You are a part of it as a group. Not you specifically, not Brad Pitt. I don't hit my wife, but I sure as shit make her cry every so often. When I used to drink many years ago we had an incident where SHE went to jail. I've told that story before. Your unrealistic ideas about the nature of men and women as a whole are likely what helped get Washington domestic violence law so out of whack that I got battered spouse literature sent to HER house but addressed to me. I intervened in a domestic dispute one day where the young girl was being followed down a side road as she walked, by her boyfriend in a car. They were screaming at each other and he was going insane. I asked her if she needed help and she flipped out on me. That certainly isn't a normal thing any more than a man and woman who rarely even argue. Just like you hear about women who get abused over and over and never leave due to fear. No one description fits the entire population but I suspect my description of men is more common than yours.
I've never even heard that was ok? So I guess I haven't figured it out either. Is there a specific story I'm supposed to know about? I'm sure if Family Feud surveyed 100 people about things it's ok to do on Portland streets that one wouldn't come up often.
Duh, got it. It wasn't that the guy was shooting her it was that the dumbass friend said he could if he wanted to. Did he look like Archie Bunker? My old Mexican buddy at work says I'm the new Archie Bunker.
I got that "we" means man because that's what you said. "I don't know why men are like that, but we are." I'm a man and I'm not like that, so don't lump me in. Period. My unrealistic ideas? You think it's unrealistic for men not to hit women? I addressed that subject when I said that men shouldn't have to put up with abuse any more than women should, and men should be able to defend themselves. I don't think that sentiment is shared by many of the people who got the domestic violence laws out of whack, as you put it. I have no idea what that has to do with anything. Maybe it is, but don't try to explain a few abusive assholes by saying it's just men being men
You've got it entirely backwards. That's why I believe your belief does more harm than good. It's most men being men. The truly few in this day and age are the overtly physical over the top wife beaters. That's not what I'm talking about. The being worried that you are being lumped in with men in general is laughable. You are, end of story.
Honestly, while @bodyman5000 and 1 says that's how "men" are, I'd argue that's how most people are. Parents would never let anyone else speak to their kids the way they speak to them. Most kids behave significantly better for other adults than they do for their own parents. Siblings (both child and adult) treat each other differently than they do their peers. We are trained to be polite and reasonable with strangers, but the more familiar we are with someone, the more likely we are to be willing to be an @$$ to that person. It's crazy when you think about it--shouldn't we actually endeavor to be kind and considerate to the people who mean the most to us, rather than to people we'll never know?
By perpetuating the "men being men" stereotype, you are furthering that bullshit. "Your unrealistic ideas about the nature of men and women as a whole are likely what helped get Washington domestic violence law so out of whack that I got battered spouse literature sent to HER house but addressed to me. " What exactly are realistic ideas about the nature of men and women?
I guess it's time we had a little talk, Nate. You see, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much... barfo
He learned you good then? Kidding. Id never hit a woman, hell i wouldnt hit a man unless defending myself, or if i saw him hitting a woman or legit hitting a child in anger not discipline. Or abusing a dog for that matter, not cats cats can go fuck themselves, right @SlyPokerDog? As for OP you should have just stood directly behind him, maybe tickle his b hole with you index finger and make a silly noise like three stooges. That's something i would do, but I'm known to cross lines and get myself hit for lulz.
I hope the nearest cat shows you how unhelpless he/she is! Incidentally the man who tried to teach me about shooting women being the right of her lord and master (my words) did not look anything like Archie Bunker. Wrong age, wrong color.
The laws in the state of Washington make it clear that people in a relationship are exactly the same. The cops get called to your house and they don't know what happened they take the person with the least visible injuries to jail. In a drunken stupor I held my wife against her will and let her have an arm free to try and get away. She scratched my face trying to get free. I didn't hit her or hurt her visibly. When I was done , I was going to leave in my car and she called the cops to stop me from killing someone drunk. I told the cops I didn't do anything to her so they took her to jail. These poor dummies have to take someone by law. The morons in Washington think a woman can beat up a 6'2" 300lb man. I'm not an HCP type nerd, I look like a lineman. If you say men are dogs and cheat on their wives, I'd agree. I've never cheated on my wife. Doesn't mean it isn't generally true. I'm not furthering that behavior by accepting it as real. It just is real, pretending it isn't seems to me to be more harmful than whining about how I personally don't cheat. In fact, I'd never hit my wife. But, I did tell her if she ever thought about cheating on me don't let me catch her. I KNOW that monster inside me would come out. It doesn't mean I think it is ok but it is what would happen. If I caught a guy raping her the movie Seven would look like a Disney movie compared to what I'd do to him. Men are by nature mean, breed it out if you want. I'm not having kids. My anger ends with me.
