Golden State Warriors: Overrated or No?

Ok.

 

Are you saying that all players used to be stars?

 

8 Hall of Famers in the first list, at least 7 in the second list... The 2nd list has 5 guys still on the upswing of their careers

Its easy to say, "look at all the names in this list" and compare it to current players who are still building their names. You forget that in 87-88, most of those players were still building their legend, and weren't the player you view them today.

 

Lebron, Westbrook, Durant, Paul, Curry, and Lillard will all be hall of famers.

Leonard could easily be as well.

Of course none of these active players are up there yet. They're still playing

 

Based on what they've done in their careers...

You're missing the point

 

The stars playing against stronger competition would make them look weaker.

The league is deeper.

 

What are you saying?

The league is deeper because role players are better. Therefore it's harder for skilled guys and stars to dominate in the same way they did back in the day.

 

It really isn't. And I can't believe this hasn't been brought up by anyone, but players are drafted after a single year of college. THAT is why the level of play has decreased. Nobody is learning fundamental, team-based basketball anymore. They're the star of their team in HS, where they're coddled by everyone around them. Then it's off to college for 7 months of basketball where they do the best they can to get noticed by scouts. And that's the extent of their basketball education.

To those who think it's "anti-change" that's behind the argument that the top talent level has fallen off - that's just stupid. The league is constantly changing. We, as sports fans, are constantly clamoring FOR change so our team gets better. You don't have an actual solid case to make, so you deflect.

 

LOL! You're really stretching! You mean back in the day when defenders could bump and hand-check? Yeah, it's SO MUCH harder to play against a defender that isn't allowed to touch you. Also, stars dominate - period. They don't allow low-level bench players (who they rarely play against) hold them in check.

Just give up. There isn't an argument to be made that today's top talent is equal to the top talent of past decades. Give. It. Up.

 

It's impossible to argue with people like you because yall always resort to "Hand Checking" and "Look at how good they were over their full career "

 

So, how bout those GSW, huh?

Dominant.

 

I believe it was Nate that brought up hand-checking.

What's "full career" have to do with it? The fact is there were a TON of great players all playing at the same time back then. Now? Barely any. The fact that guys like DeRozan and Beard are considered stars is hard proof that today's top talent doesn't hold a candle to past decades.

There may be a couple young players that haven't broken out yet that will grow to be equal to past greats - but we've seen enough from the players that are considered today's best players to know that they aren't going to take another leap.