Allen Crabbe signs offer sheet with Nets

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Should we match Brooklyn's offer sheet for Allen Crabbe?

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  1. Natebishop3

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    Schilly is probably right. The trade has to be written into the deal. I forgot about that. You can't do a sign-and-trade offer and then renege on the trade and keep the player. I saw that stipulation on one of the CBA websites.
     
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    Once he is ready to go even odds on that proposed bet he did then I am all ears and on-board.
     
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    I thought that too, but I went back and looked; it's December 15th on a matched offer sheet, January 15th if you re-sign your own FA using bird/early-bird rights.
     
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    i think we still control his destination and as has happened in the past if crabbe and the nets don't want us to match but we consider it too much a traded player exemption is the minimum we would require and a pick may be required for us to forgo our right to match. they would agree to tear up original,we sign him for their agreed upon contract. The trade clause is likely more of a poison pill to get the blazers give up on any nets picks.
    An $18million TPE could make any interesting asset in future unbalanced trades as the blazers could go over the cap in potenial trades i believe.
     
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    The CBA doesn't allow a team to take any compensation in return for not matching.
    Once the offer sheet is signed, we no longer have the option to sign/trade Crabbe to NJ, or anywhere else.
    Once the offer sheet is signed, the Nets don't have the option to "tear up the original".
    The no-trade is not something the Nets included in the deal--it's part of the result of us matching the deal (if we did).
     
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    has it been signed?
     
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    According to the reports, we have until Sunday to match, which would indicate that it was signed on Thursday. The "clock" wouldn't have started if it hadn't been signed and submitted to the league office.
     
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    thanks saw conflicting tweets on actual offer status
     
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    Crabbe is a good 6th-man type player, worth about 7 mil a year.
     
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    That's the old NBA.
     
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    Example: Sacramento
     
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    As I've said before, the cap is going up 30%, not 300%.
     
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    Danny Green is a good comp for Crabbe. Green is making $10 million per year under the old cap.

    Crabbe's contract should have been around $13 million.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Let's assume we match on Crabbe and then half-beat later somebody throws a monster deal at Harkless. Should we match that too? We could be flirting with 100 million a year locked up in Damian, Crabbe, Turner, CJ, and Mo
    I'd have been perfectly OK with that. 17+ million (more really if you count the trade kicker) is too rich for my blood if I'm Olshey. A wing who doesn't generate assists, plays just OK on defense and just shoots three pointers can be found to replace him.
     
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    Crabbe is basically the SG version of Meyers...except that Meyers passes really well for his position, sets larger screens, and rebounds fairly well. Given the fact we have Dame/CJ/Turner who can all play SG it's a pretty easy decision, IMO, as to which player we keep.
     
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    I can't wait till this is resolved and we get to go through this knashing of teeth again with some of you who cannot seem to understand we're in a different financial universe NOW!! This is the new price for players!!
     
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    I don't think we can. Because even if we intended on trading one, you still have to bring back similar contracts. I doubt we would find a team who wants to use up their cap space next year and absorb one of those two players. Not with another big free agency crop coming in. So again No, we have to choose between Crabbe and Harkless, because we can't afford both.

    I also agree on your assessment of Crabbe. He can be replaced. Maybe not immediately, but soon enough.
     
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    This is the new price for players who are one of the top 3 players on your team. With the Turner signing, Crabbe doesn't fit that bill.
     
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    It's funny, but I really could see the Nets throwing the same deal at Harkless if we match on Crabbe.
     
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