Allen Crabbe signs offer sheet with Nets

Well, not really!! Not for a bench player.

Teams usually spend about ~75% of their cap on their starters. Decent teams are going to have at least 2 max players, which will take ~50% of the cap, leaving 25% for the other 3 starters and 25% for the bench. Of course how that is allocated is subject to the discretion of the team. But that comes out to an average of about 9 mil per year for your supporting cast starters, and an average of about 5 mil per year to allocate to bench players.

 

Fully agreed. People act as if the cap has gone up to $250M. $18M a year is nearly 20% of the cap this year and will still be over 15% next year. That's the sort of money you pay to a starter, not a rotation player, moreover we'll already be paying around 30% to Lillard and I'd not expect CJ to be much below 25% if at all. You'd basically be spending at least 70% on two positions if you extend Crabbe at this crazy price, it's not justifiable by any stretch of imagination. Yes, players have got more expensive since last year but that shouldn't make a player who was worth $6M - $7M a year last year worth 250% that this year!

The reason why Crabbe and co. are getting these offers is that a lot of team have suddenly got north of $20M to spend on top of what they'd have had anyway, and they had to spend this money. It'll stabilize next year and further stabilize in 2018. Some of these contracts from 2016 will be considered junk deals very soon.

 

Yes, the contracts being doled out this year are ridiculous because teams suddenly more cap space than players to spend it on. But once they fill their rosters with these new contracts things tighten up a bit.

 

We do the same shit all the time. Milsap, Hibbert and Kanter all got these poison pill type offers from us. Not fair...LOL, You gonna take your ball and go home now?

 

I don't know if it's the same for you but every time I think about it I change my mind about matching or not. So difficult...

 

At the moment I would like NeO to match it and use the year ahead to sort it out with a couple of trades. But I guess in an hour the mindset will change. Again.

 

Ok, i've been going back and forth and back and forth since Friday.

Final answer: Match it. Keep the asset. He's the best Shooter on our bench.
Yes, it hurts and causes financial pain - but deal with it and figure out another way (trade, shuffle, etc.).

Match Harkless next. Let ML go if similar offer. We have many more BIGS as assets than we do backups at SG or SF.

 

you make that sound easy but it won't be at all, who are you going to trade that really makes a difference? you will have 4 guy you just signed (Lillard, Crabbe, ET, and soon CJ) making close to 90 mil with a cap at at 102 mil est next summer. Yoo have to pay some of the others guys some decent money to get good rotation players, so you have to spend wisely on your big contracts

 

I think only thing that Neil is thinking right now is if that contract will be tradeable or not. No chance you keep 4 players that make 90M in total next summer. And the cap is now projected to 102M for next season.

 

it will be very hard to trade with the kicker, and as I said yesterday teams into the Lux tax have a lot more restrictions on making trades

 

Yes I totally agree. I guess Neil knows better the financial things but I don't think we can trade it. And imagine he doesn't really improve, imagine we pay nearly 20M for a 10-12 pts wing that cannot create his shot, rebound or pass really good. Who will take this? We might lose CJ because of this. It's a very hard decision.

 

IMO it should be a very easy decision, adios Crabbe

 

You are right and that was my thinking before changing my mind once again. Too difficult. I give up. I'll NeO decide and I will think this is the best decision.

 

I like Crabbe and enjoyed watching him evolve as a player. With that said, if Olshey knows it'll be very difficult trading Crabbe later on, then don't match. CJ is a guy we will need to keep and managing cap space along with the roster go hand-in-hand.

Harkless becomes that much more important to the team if Olshey decides not to match Crabbe's offer sheet. In the end, I agree, it is a difficult decision.

 

Good luck Neil.

 

LOL, yeah I totally disagree with Denny but that's what makes a forum!

 

And if none wants him how do you trade him? Because for example I see 76ers have tons of space but didn't see any offer this summer. Probably none believes he deserves that much except for the Nets.

 

What time today is the deadline to match?