IMO, there's no comparison. I'd much rather have Ed Davis playing minutes than TRob. That said, TRob does fit the profile of the kind of player NO has added to the team. Young, lotto pick, potential untapped.
Totally agree. up until this point. Totally untapped? HE has had many opportunities with several teams and has failed to crack a regular rotation with any of them. I think his potential is what he is. A top tier effort guy who makes too many dumb decisions. The moment he loses a step, his effort will equate to be no more of an impact than any other average player in the NBA. Combine that with his skull and he will be gone in 3-5 years. Until that time, Id rather give that 12th roster spot to a Vonleh or Alexander or someone who hasnt had the opportunities/shows way more promise...
Yes, both good and bad. He get's a put back dunk or chase down block that makes the highlights a couple times a year, but for every good play he loses his man on defense, commits a stupid foul and makes a boneheaded unforced turnover. Ed Davis is better in every one of these areas. Ed's biggest weakness is FT shooting, and again, he's way better than TRob. And, for a guy who dunks a lot, TRob has a terrible FG% for a power forward. Orion already showed Ed Davis just as good at rebounding, but look at these shooting percentages: TRob: FG% = .447 FT% = .431 TS% = .453 Ed Davis: FG% = .611 FT% = .559 TS% = .616 Davis shoots the ball better, has a lower usage rate, turns the ball over less and commits fewer fouls. Davis even has a slightly better BLK% than TRob. Davis is a better defender and a much better, more efficient scorer. And TRob is not a good defender, He's terrible. He constantly loses his man on defense and gives up way too many easy baskets. From 82games.com: TRob: Own Production = 16.1 Opponents Production = 21.9 Net Production = -5.7 Ed Davis: Own Production = 21.0 Opponents Production = 19.1 Net Production = +1.9 TRob is a net negative (by a lot) and Ed Davis is a net positive. None of DEN, PHI and now BRK, three of the worst teams in the league, wanted this guy back. SAC, HOU and POR also passed on him. He makes an occasional spectacular play, but overall, his negatives far, far outweigh his positives. BNM
I don't think his performance has been terrible. It just doesn't live up to what is expected of a #5 draft pick. Given 36 MPG, he may well average a double double. EDIT: maybe at 24MPG he averages a double double, too
Trob played very well at the end of last season, which leads me to believe that he is asking for too much money right now or the nets would have re-signed him. It's the same reason why harkless isn't a blazer right now.
Would you like the opportunity to edit your post based off of BNM's (Awesomeness) even more in depth look?
In terms of net impact, he has been terrible. He shoots terrible percentages from both the line and the floor and constantly loses his man on defense. There is a reason bad teams in desperate need of young talent keep giving up on this guy. He's the kind of guy that might get you 12 and 10 if you play him 36 minutes, but the problem is he'd give up 20 and 12. BNM
It depends on how you define "playing well". Yeah, he got his points and rebounds. The problem is, he did so very inefficiently (high usage rate, very low shooting percentages) and, as usual gave up more than he produced (negative net production). Given his consistent net negative production, he is really in no position to be making any salary demands. He'll be lucky to be on an NBA roster next season. He might get more money playing someplace like China where his athletic advantage may make up for the other glaring flaws in his game. BNM
No, just no. He fails the eye test miserably on defense and the advanced stats show he's a sieve (he allows his opponent to score 24.0 points/48 minutes). BNM
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/difference-making-free-agents-remain-unsigned/ Thomas Robinson (Power Forward) Since being selected with the fifth overall pick of the 2012 NBA Draft, Thomas Robinson has already played for five different NBA teams. His impressive per-36-minute numbers show that Robinson can be effective given playing time and opportunities. Although the clock is ticking on his NBA career, we still feel that it’s a bit early to write him off as a difference-maker and believe, given the right situation, he can be a productive rotation player for any number of teams in the league.
Then he needs to wake up. Star players don't get dumped by SAC, DEN, PHI and BRK. Yeah, those are some fucked up teams, especially SAC and BRK, but they are the teams that are more likely to draft or overpay a guy like TRob and even they see his flaws and gave up on him. BNM
Meh. East coast tabloid article. He is reviewing ALL FA's. I doubt he has the inside knowledge on all of them. Ill trust the stats and my eye test when I watched him up close and personal. Nothing there for him and the NBA. Overseas he will be within 1-3.
They need to also look as his opponents per 36 numbers. They are even more "impressive". He scores 12 points/36, but gives up 18 points/36 (according to 82games.com). He shoots .447 from the field and .431 from the line. Those numbers are absolutely terrible. And, his usage rate is almost 20%. He's such a terrible shooter, his USG% should be much lower. He hurts his team on both ends of the floor. BNM
You list those teams but keep forgetting about us. No we didn't release him, but we traded him in part of a trade where he was the worst of three players and we also obviously felt he was expendable/not a realistic piece to the future..
Yes, all though very marginal. I love how you missed the part where I TOLD YOU WHAT YOU WERE MISSING........ Read posts completely do we? To be clear. I was stating they are basically the same with the stats you say he is better at. At a per 36, they are still very close. But TO's man. How can you just ignore that? Not taking you seriously yet.....
It is a little ironic that TRob's best comp in the NBA just might be Hickson. Two former Trail Blazers.
