Harkless resolves after Crabbe decision?

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  1. theprunetang

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    Oh come on. Olshey should field a whole team of former Syracuse white American born centers. We would make basketball great again.
     
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    To answer the question, unless Waiters takes the room exception, no, he's not an option.
     
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    Waiters is so awful...
     
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    Meyers looks bad as a 4, Davis is the only guy who can play with him because he is more mobile, but Davis has to change his play style when he's playing with Leonard.

    Someone has to defend the other team's forwards\stretch 4 right? so Davis is chasing those guys while Leonard is parked in the paint...what are we gaining here? Davis takes less rebounds,spends energy chasing forwards? Leonard's softness in the paint?

    Maybe i'm wrong, but it seemed like the team was more aggressive when Meyers went down, less stagnant play and more getting to the rim.

    When Leonard is missing 3 pointers he's getting sad and pouts, when Harkless is missing a jump-shot he is trying to dunk it on the next possession.
     
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    Well, I guess I'll have to reason this out with you. Harkless not signing yet is because of delay from either 1) Harkless or 2) Olshey. The guy delaying is delaying because he's pursuing other options, trying to make something happen. Can you think of any other reason to delay? You seem to think it's Olshey, not Harkless, who's pursuing options. But when Olshey does that, he normally doesn't lie to the media that he's negotiating with the player. You want me to cite an article, not just common sense, so here's one.

    http://www.csnnw.com/portland-trail...s-not-any-closer-getting-free-agent-deal-done
     
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    Harkless wants to stay here, it says. So it is, technically Olshey, by your paramaters.

    And none of those teams are saying "higher chance" of a starting role based on your quote. So to say something like that is putting words into their mouths. Reading the article, it never states that "Harkless and agent have made a list of teams where he has a higher chance of starting" ... and no teams are "competiting" or there would be offers.

    It looks like a whole bunch of "I need to know what's going on, so I'll fill in the blanks" when there aren't any blanks there to start. Were just at the thesis, we don't need to write the whole paper before doing research.

    I do love his agent's name though!

    And, I've been adamant about this since the Preseason... Harkless would be amazing here. We need to keep him.
     
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    It's just common sense. Are you doubting that Harkless and his agent have made a list of the best teams for him that can also afford him? I don't know any other way to go about it.

    Are you doubting that he is asking them about his chances of starting? That he and his agent have pre-estimated his chances of starting and ranked the teams by preferability? Which part of common sense are you doubting?

    My point was that if Olshey hadn't taken away Harkless' starting job, and had left the decision to whoever looks best in the preseason...like every other GM and coach do...If Olshey hadn't pulled the rug out from under Harkless, he'd be more likely to return, and the reason for the delay is probably that Harkless now knows he has 100% chance of returning to the bench for reduced minutes.

    I think Harkless will not return, because there are teams where his chance of playing a bigger role than here, exceeds 0%. My point was, Olshey's big mouth caused the current problem.
     
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    Just because Brooklyn can offer you the most, its not common sense to want to play there.

    I'm doubting that he's proved he's a starter in the league.

    If you're not good enough the starting job is taken from you, simple as that. If you have been a bench player your whole career, don't expect things to be handed to you at the first glimpse of success.

    Bigger role doesn't always equal better, sure he could have a bigger role in Brooklyn, but without the proper coach/system you can really hurt your value as a player in the long run. If Hark is smart, he will continue to develop here and be patient for the big deal down the road.
     
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    This makes no sense. As a pro athlete, especially a young one who hasn't made a gazillion dollars, you need to get paid when you can. It would be completely foolish for him to stay in Portland for 1 year 5 million, rather than go to Brooklyn, or anywhere else, for that matter, at 4 years 20 million. Knee injuries happen every day
     
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    If he wants a max contract and won't budge, there's no way he's going to be signed to anything but the QO.
     
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    I don't believe for a moment that he actually is saying he has to have a max contract. His agent is likely putting that out there because then they can say, "Hey, look, we signed a 4 for 70 deal. You guys got a steal after we caved in and lowered our demands!".
     
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    http://www.blazersedge.com/2016/7/1...-moe-harkless-portland-trail-blazers-contract

    Moe Harkless And Trail Blazers At A Standstill

    Harkless has been allowed to sign elsewhere since July 7, and the market is slowly drying up as teams fill out their rosters. On June 30, NBA insider Alex Kennedy reported that the Detroit Pistons, Washington Wizards, Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, andDallas Mavericks were among interested teams. Since, then those teams have signed the following forwards, while making other salary commitments as well:
    If nothing develops, Harkless' best option may be to accept the Blazers' qualifying offer and test the market again in 2017. He would have the opportunity to fight for minutes and once again prove his worth in a crowded frontcourt.
     
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    I don't know why Neil and them did this. Meyers should of been the last one to deal with but for whatever reason they have some strange obsession with him. Harkless stepped up for Meyers at the pf spot and played amazing. i just don't get it. I get the part of us wanting more options and firepower but I just don't see Meyers taking that next step. I see moe taking that next step
     
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    Skill set scarcity, plain and simple. There is nothing Mo does that other players on the roster at his position don't already do as well or better. There are things that Meyers does that no player on the roster as his position can do as well or better. Therefore, Meyers became a higher priority.
     
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    I think that the team has a lot invested in Leonard. He's progressed nicely, IMO. I think they want to reap the rewards of their investment.
     
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