Unarmed South Florida man with hands up shot by police while calming autistic patient

Tanks and bazookas. Oh yeah....lots of cops wandering around with RPGs, huh?

Come on man. Not every department is some militarized army.

 

We'll agree to disagree. Don't really feel like arguing this at 8 in the morning. No offense.

Obama can go fuck himself. Nothing that SJW race-baiter has done for this country has been good. And this is yet more government interference in the name of being PC.

And when the next failed Military washout goes nuts and kills more police officers in a mass shooting, they can just stick to their unarmored Crown Victorias I guess.

 

Let's be real here. I have NEVER seen a regular beat officer just driving around in a 10-ton armored vehicle for regular patrols. Never. They are specialized equipment for specialized roles/problems/tasks, and it takes a DANGEROUS situation for them to be deployed. Whether that's an armed man holed up in a house, or whether that's an active shooter in the middle of a city, like Dallas. In many cases, police employ those vehicles as a show of force towards the criminal element or suspects in question. The message is clear: you aren't going to win this, so surrender peacefully and comply. And most of the time, it works.

I think that the whole "militarized police" argument is blown grossly out of proportion. So besides MRAPs, what are other examples of "militarized police"? In the way they handle a suspect? Boo hoo...they're suspects for a reason. In the vests they wear? Bullshit; those things are VERY handy for a cop. I wore tactical suspenders as an armed officer for a security company, and they were greatly welcomed.

Most military work demands compliance, and police work is rarely different in that regard. And our police DON'T treat most people as if they're enemy soldiers in Afghanistan, and there's a huge difference from treating everyone as a potential enemy in a war zone, and asking for your license during a traffic stop.

What kind of society do you think we would have if criminals saw our police forces as weak? Have you seen what a weak police force is like in Mexico?

Obviously, no, we're not living in a war zone. But when the dangerous situation arises (and we've clearly seen these past two weeks that they can happen), what kind of officer do you want responding? The traffic warden on the corner in white gloves, or the guy who shows up with the proper equipment ready for a fight?

I know which one I'd rather have on my team.

And let's remember that the history of police work has evolved into these tactics and heavy equipment usage for a reason. As society continues to evolve, unfortunately so does the criminal element, as well as criminal tactics and violence. To expect police to, say, go back to the revolver days of the 1980s is just plain ridiculous.

I don't want the police to be less prepared to do their jobs. And, in my opinion, the government taking away a tool is one less tool that they have to keep them safe in a dangerous situation. I want them to show up, ready for action. They just need to have good communication, order, and calmness under pressure when they do.

Now, I think a better argument here other than "demilitarize the police" should be "How can we improve communication between the public and police officers?" Because better communication will drastically cut down on the number of times those heavy tactics will have to be employed.

 

Sigh. Like I said earlier: a proper leader would have taken proper control of this situation, and this would never have happened. You're going to shoot a suspect who you can't properly identify whether or not they have a gun?

That works great in the movies. Not real life. Not everyone is some drunk homeless bum with a wasted body.

Please do. I guarantee you I'll walk away unharmed.

 

And yet....the 8 officers killed recently were NOT killed by homeless people. They were killed by highly-trained former soldiers.

An arm-bar technique does not make a person a karate expert. I know several, but I'm not going up against someone with a Black Belt (or any color belt for that matter). And they are very limited in their use, and their being employed successfully depend on many factors that are impossible to predict. But hey...I have the luxury of being able to avoid problem situations in the first place. Cops don't.

And stealing is STEALING. What the fuck does it matter if it's a piece of fruit or a TV from an open garage?

 

I'm always fascinated with the way the authoritarian mind works. Any abuse, any over-reach, any tactic is excused or defended in the name of "Law and Order." I shouldn't be anymore, but I'm still amazed how cheaply some people hold the civil rights of others.

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...gun-crime-are-both-dropping-charles-c-w-cooke

Clearly we need more SWAT teams to combat the never-ending rise in the rate of violent crime ...

 

meh. i look at what i do and think it isnt anything compared to the guys overseas. while the gap may be closing, i havent been shot at yet, or had to watch for IEDs.

 

how many secret service SUV's were disposed of? oh... i guess whats good for the goose isnt good for the gander?

 

this is disturbing. cops should have better aim.

 

he's got to disarm the enemy for his civil war to gain ground. i remember predicting this 8 years ago, i just figured it would happen sooner.

it's funny when people in power take power away from others but dont give up any themselves. why does he need an RPG proof limo? criminals dont have RPGs here right?