Liberals wanting to repeal bill of rights.

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  1. riverman

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    Finding dirt on career politicians is like shooting fish in a barrel...I watched all 13 minutes...what I disagree with is when they compare her position in 2002 with her position in 2016...she's flip flopped but over a long period of time....Trump is better at lying...Hillary is terrible at it...she's actually not a good public speaker at all
     
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    Gary Johnson is the safest vote there is...vote Johnson in November
     
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    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    We are so fucked.
     
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    Bullshit. He supports TPP.
     
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    and your alternative is? find a non bullshit candidate and tell me the better option...Stein from the green party? the ex CIA guy? Trump? Clinton? I stand by my choice...to me Gary Johnson is actual change in DC...
     
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    Fuck the establishment. I'm voting for Jill.
     
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    Gary Johnson has a pretty radical plan for eliminating income tax and taxing non essential purchases instead...legalizing marijuana across the board..quite a few new approaches to governing. He's about as far from establishment as you can get...so you found one thing you disagree with? Look at the total package of his ideas and I think you'll find it's pretty progressive. I give Johnson a Ross Perot shot at competing..I give Stein a Ralph Nader chance.
     
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    I don't have a problem with the trans pacific partnership...but then again...I don't want to build walls and become an isolationist nation.
     
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    And why is that bad?

    It's not trade deals that are killing jobs, it's taxes and regulations that drive companies to build factories overseas. Even within america, companies are ditching high tax states like California for low tax states like Texas.

    There's $2T+ in corporate savings accounts overseas. Bring that money back here by lowering the tax the companies would owe and there'd be $2T of new investment without spending $.01 of taxpayer money.
     
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    I've done lots of research since I'm not voting establishment for the first time ever. I've done lots of research on Johnson and some of his idiotic plans. He also wants to elimitate the board of education. His tax plan is throwing pasta at a wall. Changes to the 14th amendment? Fuck you Johnson.
     
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    Why is the board of education good? As it's gotten bigger, education has gotten worse.

    His tax plan is the FAIR tax. It's been vetted and it has a lot of merit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax
     
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    Sigh... Complete farce. So when Bush cut taxes... 2x and eliminated lots of regulations that really helped us keep companies from outsourcing and closing factories huh?

    But somehow you'll continue to push the false narrative that GE pays taxes. I'm not getting into this one with you again Denny.
     
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    I'm a retired teacher dviss...the board of education has done a terrible job. We lag behind the world in academic achievement and teachers have been handcuffed for a long time with very, very low pay for the work they do.
     
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    So you reform it... You don't eliminate it.
     
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    Basically Johnson wants to tax you if you buy a yacht or airplane or Ferrari like most countries do. Taiwan has a heavy tax on imports..a Fender Strat made in the USA cost thousands in Taipei...hundreds in the states. The TPP will open up a lot of Canadian-US collaborations and jump start trade balance in the Pacific. I wouldn't compare Johnsons policy targets to anything Bush did. Vote for Stein...I don't have a big problem with her...I'm voting Johnson. I like enough of his platform to see that he's the obvious better choice....not that the choices are hard to make.
     
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    I'm for removing the BoE. The schooling situation and funding corruption in education today is downright criminal.
     
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    You restructure it and give it a new name....life is a process of elimination..if it's broke..fix it. The board at my local school couldn't get anything done in the 16 years I worked there....couldn't attract talent or agree on the simplest topics up for discussion. Reform often starts with clearing the slate and regrouping.
     
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    Education belongs at the local level. Public educations should be eliminated if the Federal government continues to be involved. The only acceptable involvement at the Federal level is
    to provide vouchers for use by parents at the private school of their choice.
     
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    You do know that Carter did this during his term? It did not raise any revenue. It put most boat builders out of business instead. That is the nature of taxing items, it mean you will get less of them, often that means, none.
     

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