Trump supporters, what would he have to say before you would not vote for him?

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'd guess the promise that since life there sucks, it's the end of suffering..free ticket to paradise and 72 virgins would be the endgame fantasy.
     
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    Basically the youth are the only hope for that part of the world. I was glad to see that Iranian activist at the Olympics soccer match with the banner that women should be able to attend games in Iran just like men...she said she has tickets for the next match and will bring it again, although the authorities threatened to remove her
     
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    We know they did recommend we stay the course, which was the most peaceful and least life threatening to our troops. And we see the results of not listening to them and surrendering.

    The military guys look pretty smart. The surrendered in chief, not so much.
     
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    We occupied Germany and Japan, regardless of their wanting us there. To this day, Japan has no choice. We had a $trillion reasons to stay, and 4000+ lives we sacrificed for their benefit. And all the leverage we needed to force our will, to win the peace.

    It wasn't just al Maliki who wanted us out, so he could brutalize the Sunni. It was our enemies who were willing to wait it out.
     
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    40,00 troops relegated to our bases in the desert. Peace at least as good as it was before the surrender. ISIS still non existent. Inclusive democratic government well established. Government that works for all the people.

    The alternative is ISIS, and the terrorist attacks we've seen in Belgium, France, the USA, etc.
     
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    We're not supposed to be a nation of rent a cops. Taiwan stares down China everyday without our soldiers there...they have peace
     
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    But according to you those troops would have died anyway from accidents.
     
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    As Nik pointed out, you can win a battle with these nutjobs but more than likely, another one will grow from rubble...and a name change
     
  12. MarAzul

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    Really? Who is the commander of this operation?
     
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    And?

    We have clear proof of what happened when we surrendered in Iraq.
     
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    I don't know...all I get are the AP feeds
     
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    According to me, being stationed in Iraq was no more of a threat to the soldiers than being on base. Big difference.
     
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    The Sunni were on our side. Now they're on ISIS' side. Without the Sunni, there is no "rubble" to grow anything from. That's why there was peace.
     
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    Hey....I've exhausted my point..I'm happy with a more streamlined approach to dealing with the bad guys..sorry I pointed out that ISIS lost a major 150mile line of ocean front property and people rejoiced....I know it detracts from the surrender line..peace out!
     
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    Well, perhaps that is a reason, one of many, why you don't fight battles unless it is part of winning the war. That almost always requires taking out the leadership.
    Taking out grunts with battles for attrition is a fools game.

    Any top flight commander knows this rule. Who is he?
     
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    We did surrender.

    And it's the Russians along with Assad that are beating back ISIS everywhere else. Before the Russians punked Obama, ISIS was gaining ground, not losing it.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...lebrates-liberation-isil-160814040440393.html

    Separately, air strikes in opposition areas of Aleppo province on Saturday killed at least 51 people, activists and rescue workers told Al Jazeera.

    Air strikes by the Russian and Syrian air force continued despite a pledge by Russia to observe a three-hour daily ceasefire to allow humanitarian aid deliveries.

    The battle for Aleppo, Syria's second biggest city, has raged on since mid-2012 and is among the fiercest in the multi-front war that has killed nearly 400,000 people, according to an estimate by the UN's chief mediator.
     
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    Why did ISIS ever have that city?

    SURRENDER.
     

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