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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Anecdotal again.

    If your BMI is 25-30%, you are overweight. If yours is higher, you are obese. If it's over 40, you are morbidly obese.

    The statistics show 70% of the US is overweight or obese. It was under 20% in the 70s.

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  2. Denny Crane

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    They should not have recommended anything. They made things much worse.

    And to bring it back to ObamaCare premiums, it's costing us.
     
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    Whatever happened to that individual responsibility crap that libertarians used to espouse?

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  4. Denny Crane

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    Maybe on your planet.
     
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    No one in the US has polled any skinny person I know to fit this poll....but I monitor my calls and delete shit like that ...I don't disagree with you Denny about cutting out your carbs to lose weight....I disagree with you blaming the govt for obesity and claiming no carbs is the only way to lose weight...good luck with your dietary discipline...always a good thing
     
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    It's difficult when you go to the store and you can't find full fat yogurt. It's all 0 fat, highly processed, and added sugars. Added chemicals, too. Nanny state has disincentivized people from taking responsibility. After all, the value proposition is supposed to be socializing decisions.

    When you take fat out of food, you do it in a lab unless you can cut it off a hunk of meat or something. To put flavor back into the processed food, they add sugar.

    We can stop subsidizing corn production, too. Do we really want all the corn syrup in our foods? It wasn't there before the government dietary recommendations.
     
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    You're being silly. There is nothing wrong with giving our children fruit and vegetables instead of ketchup.
     
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    dude...learn to make yogurt...it's so simple it's crazy...makes itself...my wife has made yogurt for us for 28 years
     
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    Really? What is the government daily recommendation of corn syrup?
     
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    Buy meat from a local farmer....have it butchered anyway you like....if you control your food choices you don't need to feel victimized by all the packaged goods the tv tries to sell you......you should be angry at television...not the govt
     
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    They don't poll people. They gather statistics from studies and from doctor visits.

    I don't think diet should necessarily be no carb. It wasn't no carb before the 70s, and we had no epidemic. Due to government recommendations, mass quantities of carbs were added to the vast majority of foods available to us.

    But once you are obese, better find a diet you can stick to or you will regain all the lost weight and then some.

    The graphs are damning. There's a clear point where the epidemic took off. Not so coincidal with the food pyramid.

    The epidemic is world wide. We became a major exporter of food and other nations took up our diet. Known now as the "Western Diet."
     
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    If they make you eat enough of it, they won't have to pay out social security benefits
     
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    The government food pyramid is almost pure carbohydrates at the base, and the row above - what they recommend people eat the most of.

    What food isn't corn syrup in? Eat that.
     
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    If guns kill people, then spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat.
     
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    If you've ever lived overseas...you'd realize that our American diet is the butt of jokes more often than not...the Mediterranean diet is gaining in popularity all over the world but it made me chuckle thinking about what my French friends overseas would say to that comment...they hate American food with a passion..I used to tell them they'd never had American food unless they'd visited our heartland and dined with farmers....that's the American diet I relate too....not the Californian, drive in movie diet craze
     
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    I do that. Meat is way up the food pyramid. The masses are encouraged to not eat much.
     
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    The stats show 70% - and growing (literally) - aren't y
     
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    So none. There is no daily recommendation of corn syrup.
     
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    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/health/western-diet-health/

    CNN)The developing world is seeing rapid urbanization, with more than half of the world's population now living in cities and this figure expected to reach 70% by 2050.

    But with this progression comes an urban lifestyle -- often meaning less physical activity and the consumption of a "Western" diet.

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    is a Western diet?


    "The biggest features [of a Western diet] are overconsumption of over-refined sugars, highly refined and saturated fats, animal protein and a reduced intake of plant-based fibers," says Ian Myles, from the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. This translates to a diet high in fat, red meat, salt and sugars, and low in fiber.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_pattern_diet
     
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    The government is paying for the corn syrup.

    A carbohydrate is a carbohydrate.

    Bottom two rows of the food pyramid.

    Corporations use it because the government subsidizes it, making it plentiful and cheap.
     

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