This is what actual corruption looks like...

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  1. barfo

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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I think Hiliar can afford to pay for her own travel.

    I didn't say it is corruption, I did say it lined their pockets. You know, $1 they get someone else to spend on their behalf is $1 they personally don't have to spend.
     
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    No, the evidence is in front of everyone, and the polls show what the people think of the evidence.

    She was ahead in March. As the evidence came forward, she dropped like a rock.

    The evidence is so damning that even TRUMP is considered more honest and trustworthy.

    She's earned her reputation. Sycophants aren't making a difference.
     
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    First question: it isn't different. It was poor judgment to vote for the war. Both I and she agree with you on that.

    Second question: Clearly voting for something is being a proponent. But you missed the qualifier, which was "one of the biggest".

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    So? I can afford to pay for my own travel, but if my employer wants me to fly to East Bumfuck, I'm going to let them pay.

    That's not enriching myself or lining my pockets.

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  6. Denny Crane

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    It's hard to take you seriously when there's video of her being one of the biggest proponents of the war.

    She had recently been 1st lady, and I assume her faithful husband told her all about Saddam and WMDs.

     
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    You aren't your employer. If you were running a company and having the company pay your expenses, then yes, you are lining your pockets/enriching yourself. You are, even if your employer is giving you a company car, for example.
     
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    70% of republicans think Obama was not born in the US. Doesn't mean it's true. Just means republicans are stupid.

    Citing a poll as evidence of corruption is pretty lame, argument-wise.

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    Ha! If you were out meeting the folks I meet daily, your opinion on this matter would draw smiles, silence, and charity.
    I guess S2 is your domain, err the Willamette Valley members of course.
     
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    Obviously you've never run a business, Denny.

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    Does this mean I'm not getting an S2 company car?
     
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    At 35%, it isn't just republicans who think she's corrupt, untrustworthy, and crooked.

    At 56%, it isn't just republicans who think she should have been indicted. That's damned good evidence the people think she's crooked.
     
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    Bullshit.

    One of those SMH posts.
     
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    There are no qualifiers to Yeah or Nay.
     
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    No. Now get back to waxing the S2 company jet.
     
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    Yes, if your claim is that people think she's crooked, then the poll is excellent evidence. It does not, however, prove that she is crooked.

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    The people saw the evidence. Plenty of evidence.

    They saw her lie. They saw the truth come out and that she lied. They saw her lie again. And again. And again.

    They saw the emails. They saw how she obstructed justice by having them destroyed, even though they were of interest to ongoing investigations.

    They see that it's sources like WikiLeaks where the truth is to be found, not what the partisan sycophants in democratic party government tell us.

    The people saw the evidence. They don't find her trustworthy or honest and the do find that she is a crook. Especially after the FBI refused to recommend charges.
     
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    Yes yes, in the technical sense. But only fools vote for someone whom most think is a crook, a liar, and incompetent.
     
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    So everyone who was for the war is 'one of the greatest proponents'? Then I'd agree, with that definition, that she was one. As was Trump, for that matter.

    I guess if you listen to Trump long enough, you think that everything is "the greatest"?

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    Hate to break this to you buddy, but most people think Trump is a crook, a liar, and incompetent.

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