BLM Activist changes tune on Police...

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  1. MARIS61

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    This is a flat out lie. Go to the FBI's website.

    Violent crime in America between races is almost an anomaly, NOT COUNTING CRIMES BETWEEN CRIMINAL GANGS.

    Could be partly/mostly because criminals commit crimes near home, but aside from gang warfare, around 90% of all violent crimes are committed against members of the criminal's own race.


    Violent crime in America reduced to font size below:

    BLACK ON BLACK CRIME
    WHITE ON WHITE CRIME

    BLACK ON WHITE CRIME
    WHITE ON BLACK CRIME
     
  2. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Sort of.

    I was referring to these people that continue to cause division and hatred within their communities by supporting such acts as looting, rioting, and violence against police. Then all of the sudden when they are the victim it's "oh shit, I NEED the police".
     
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    Maybe they found his website and or some of his past work online or what. I don't know, but both outlets said the same thing. You are correct they could be lying, but the numbers don't lie and typically BLM supporters aren't one to want police. You guys can claim all you want that they want reform and this and that, but when you actually watch video of real life demonstrations it's an entirely different tune.
     
  4. Denny Crane

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    "However, those who insist on talking about black-on-black crime frequently fail to acknowledge that most crime is intraracial."

    INTRARACIAL

    MEANS BETWEEN PEOPLE OF THE SAME "RACE":

    WHITE ON WHITE

    BLACK ON BLACK

    and so on.
     
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    They don't want the police as they are.

    The police need to change, not black people in their neighborhoods.

    The police don't need to stop being police, they need to stop shooting people. They need to do their jobs, and the same way they would in any other neighborhood. And be held accountable for not doing so.
     
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    You wont see me disagreeing with this. We all agree that the militarization of police needs to stop, police brutality needs to stop. However, that is not what some of those people are protesting for. I've heard their shtick on multiple videos. Unfortunately those problem children have great influence over the masses.
     
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    The problem as I see it is you mix militant cops with blacks in black neighborhoods and they kill people they likely wouldn't in other neighborhoods. The cops aren't put on trial in all but the most publicized and egregious circumstances.

    It's on the police to mix well in those neighborhoods. If they take the view that they're a bunch of criminals and draw guns at the slightest provocation, they aren't going to effectively do their job. This is what BLM is opposed to and trying to fix.

    And of course some of these shootings are just beyond acceptable. Like cops drawing guns against an unarmed man in a wheel chair and end up shooting him.

    The police obviously need more members of the community as police officers policing those communities.

    Even if I take the most optimistic POV on how things have been, the frequent images of white cops shooting unarmed black men (and women) is nothing less than embarrassment of the highest order. It is not the police's proper role to serve and PROTECT.
     
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    TBH, I thought this whole thread was about bacon, lettuce, and mutton sandwiches.
     
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    The part that I don't understand is how nobody seems to holy politicians accountable. In Portland, the Chief of Police has historically reported directly to the Mayor. The Mayor is the boss. Vote that sucker out. Put someone in power that will actually wield some power with the cops.
     
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    now that's an oxymoron
     
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    I much prefer MLT over BLM

     
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    They do elect black mayors and there are black police chiefs appointed. It still takes the feds to initiate investigations into racially oriented violence by the cops. It's not who's in charge, per se, it's the system of rules and rules of engagement are codified and need to be fixed. There's clearly a lot of resistance to fixing them.
     
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    Freddie Gray case judge is black. Was interested by the results of that case.
     
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    The jury deadlocked on all 4 charges, there was a retrial. The judge doesn't get to vote.
     
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    Since it seems to be a bit of a concern for some of you, so far only white people have signed up for the Wheel's Meet and Greet. I think you'll be safe to attend.
     
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    As long as it is not in the Lloyd Center District or they'll be armed to the teeth!
     
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    Deadlocked is even more interesting!
     
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    Burden of proof is unanimous jury vote. It only takes one no to hang the jury.

    In civil cases, it's a majority, not unanimous.
     
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    What do you think about the situation? Think they were innocent or just an accident?
     

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