1st Debate! Trump vs Clinton

A primary goal of the mainstream media in a Presidential campaign is to have a dynamic close race to cover and profit from. Hillary leads comfortably in this race by most polling so Trump receives the kid glove treatment to help him along. The last thing they want to do is bury him and have viewers decide it's over.

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So let me get this straight. You wouldn't use a tax law to avoid paying money at the end of the year? I call bullshit on that. EVERYONE tries to get back as much money as they can, or avoid paying personal income tax whenever possible.

This notion that Hillary put forth that the country couldn't have nice roads, bridges, etc because Trump personally (may or may not; unknown ATM) paid income tax was a complete sham.

IF he hasn't paid income tax its likely because he has taken losses in other avenues of his business life. That works out for many business owners around the country.

Also, this assertion that Trump hasn't paid some Architect in the audience for his clubhouse work is nonsense. There was no facts given, just a unfounded claim. Perhaps Trump has a lawsuit against the business? It's unknown and that claim was dubious at best.

 

Not to mention her complete bullshit tax plan. Oh yes "Tax the wealthy so they can pay their fair share" and then goes into saying something similar to "Working hard should get you paid well". Shit is so dumb. Yes, lets go ahead and penalize those who succeed in America, yet continue to say I will get you to succeed with my tax plan.

Also the notion that her tax plan to tax the wealthy/businesses will fix America? Not even close; People with that much money will just leave, or put their money elsewhere, which is the entire cornerstone of Donald's argument against her. People do not want to continue to do business in America due to our current tax laws.

 

So it's only "Trump and his rich cronies" that pay nothing? Try again. And you don't think things like the Clinton foundation aren't using those same loopholes? Come on... be real. People in politics (before Donald) made these laws. You can't sit there and bust his balls for taking advantage of laws that have been in place for years. All that does is lend more credence to his statement that she has been in politics for that many years and has done nothing to improve the USA and its economy.

Edit: My wife and I get tax breaks/relief/adjustment because of a business. This can happen to everyone in business not just "rich cronies".

 

Did you guys miss when he said that tax money woud have been wasted? If you don't agree with that we'll just have to be enemies for life.

 

Website looks made up to me.

 

I absolutely agree with him 100% on that. I actually laughed, because it's true, his tax money would have been squandered anyway. Probably on more Federal records training for Clinton and her staff.... I mean, I take those flash video training tests and let me tell ya, they are uh....'awesome'.... (not )

 

I watched the first 15 minutes, but got irritated at the interrupting by Trump. Decided to turn it off.

 

There was just mention of loaning money to a person to use to buy drugs in another thread. This is a good analogy for this.

Like I've said, he seems like a nut job. I prefer the nutjob to the snake oil salesman.

He said something about dangerous inner cities and she went straight to how black churches are great. If you get shot walking to church I'm not sure the quality of the church makes me feel better.

I don't think he has the first clue what to do for the black community, but at least he doesn't pander to them.

Edit...example. Stop and frisk. Fuck off with the unconstitutional bullshit. Locking all black people before they do anything up would decrease crime too. You can't do it. It is unAmerican

 

Well adjusted gross income means that it includes loopholes, no?

 

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I do not agree with stop and frisk either. But whose to say it's only targeting black people? I think that is not correct. I will say this though and it goes for any color/gender.

The way you dress directly impacts the way people view you and it goes far outside any law enforcement person. It happens at work, in public, by police, by men, women, black, white, you name it.

There is a huge correlation to hip hop and the "thug-type" culture. Just listen to the majority of the songs. OK, kids both black and white latch onto that music, emulate the musicians and end up dressing 'thuggish'. They could be straight-A students and clean nosed, but the way they dress causes people to look at them differently. It's the same way that some businesses want you to dress up in a suit when you are at work. Perception matters.

 

And her plan is to tax them more!

LOL. come on... Such an incentive to be successful in America! Come to America make money and pay for everyone else! Woohoo! The whole idea stinks of mediocrity.

 

I know, but why they do something and if they should are two different things. If I were dictator anyone with their boxer shorts showing to the middle of their butt cheek would be arrested. Second offense would be bad for them.

Luckily I'm not a dictator, our government can't do things just because I agree with the reasons.

Left lane speed limit Nazis would lose their license for life.

 

Hillary's performance reminded me of Glen Close in the Stepford Wives.


While Trump’s performance reminded me of Jack Nicholson in the Shining.


The debate as to which candidate is the most crazy goes on.

 

Ahh, you could be right. I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you, just wasn't sure your chart responded directly to the point.