1st Debate! Trump vs Clinton

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    wonder if the mic is why his sniffles were more pronounced?
     
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    New Fox News Poll is out and it looks like Hillary picked up a couple of percentage points:

    Clinton -43%
    Trump -40%
    Johnson -8%
    Green - 4%
     
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    The statement by the Commission really doesn't tell us much. There were audio issues. Was it even a mic issue? Was it a speaker issue? Was it an audio issue related to the telecast feed or for the audiotorium? Also -- don't they check these things beforehand? So, I can see why you might wonder about this, but I can't imagine we will ever get an answer. Frankly, Trump should just let things go. People have probably forgot about the sniffles and they would forget about Machado too if he wouldn't keep bringing it up. This double down approach is eventually going to burn him. Maybe he will do better in the next debate, but probably not. If he is going to go after Hillary for Bill Clinton's affairs, I think he is just playing into her hands.
     
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    Trump joins Duke as the only candidates to ever be 'disendorsed' by USA Today.

    Impressive. That's like breaking John Stockton's career assists record.
     
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    Machado is a fucking idiot. She's a liabilty other than the initial talking point.
     
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    I find they both lie so much, it's hard to tell if they're telling the truth. Except when the fact checkers call it - they're mostly wrong.
     
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    Ha ha!! You used the phrase "rush to war?"

    One of my most memorably frustrating arguments with you was a couple of years ago when I said there had been a rush to war. You came up with several cut-and-paste posts denying it until I gave up.
     
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    Trump used the phrase "rush to war."

    The media called him a liar based upon some 2002 shock jock radio interview. In 2003, 2 months before the invasion, he was on Fox News saying "maybe we should wait, maybe we should wait for the U.N."

    Clearly against a rush to war.

    My own view is there was no rush. No war in 2001, no war in 2002, no war until March of 2003. That's 2+ years. Rush to war would be, you know, right away.

    March of 2003 was 1.5 years after 9/11/2001. Not exactly a rush their either.

    W, as commander in chief, could have ordered the war to start any time of his choosing.
     
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    Circular reasoning.

    The reason that the rush to war took 1.5 years of daily demands from Bush to rush us into war was...almost everyone was against going to war. Get it?

    Just because he had to give us the bum's rush for so long due to our resistance, does not mean that he did not give us the bum's rush. Get it?
     
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    IS THAT ONE OF THOSE FAKE DAN RATHER DOCUMENTS DOE?
     
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    "Making things up based on facts." - Kellyanne Conway
     
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    Except everyone was for it.

    72%, in fact.

    22% against it. That's not resistance.

    If only the facts agreed with your version of history, I might agree with you.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/03/19/public-attitudes-toward-the-war-in-iraq-20032008/

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    Except that we've been through this and I showed you other polls from the biggest polling companies that show that even at the outset, the majority of Americans opposed the war. I don't have time now to dig up that post from a few years ago.
     
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    No you didn't because there were no such polls.
     
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    umm, I don't remember this. I do remember finding myself, differing with most other people again.
     
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    Now 18 to 6 to -1 (the USA Today endorsed 'Not Trump')

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    The Trump subreddit is endorsing him.
     
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    A six for Johnson makes him a moderate...a one for Trump means he has really tiny hands
     
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