USA TODAY's Editorial Board: Trump is 'unfit for the presidency'

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  1. barfo

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    Not sure how you can separate those. The supreme court makes the final decision on quite a few social agenda issues.

    Trump has promised to appoint justices that will implement his social agenda.

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  2. MarAzul

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    Are you really serious? My god man, Trump has not caused anyone to be killed or jailed anyone by errors or maliciousness. Take the one huge fucking lie by Hillary, Blaming Benghazi on a video then going so far as to promise to jail the poor shmuck that made the dang video.

    Three things are hugely wrong with this:

    Lying to the American people for a disaster she was responsible for letting it go that far.

    Lying to the families of the men lost at Benghazi about what cause the events in Benghazi.

    Ignoring the 1st amendment of the Constitution, making a video, even a piss poor one is a persons right, but yet she promised to jail the guy. It matters not that they jailed the guy for some other offense, Hillary promised the families to jail the guy.

    This disqualifies her from being anything other than despicable, certainly not President.
     
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    That's about as reasonable as saying that Trump is disqualified from being president because he called Ms. Universe fat.

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    I don't buy that story Marz....spin...she covered up a mistake sure but I think you're take is a bit sensationalized. She's got baggage but Trump is on another level of carelessness that makes her look like the voice of reason....sucks, but there you have it
     
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    I don't even give a shit.
     
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    That was my point.

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  7. MarAzul

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    WTF? Men died. A man was jailed. She lied to you and me and everyone else. Nothing sensational about this performance.
     
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    Yes, men died. They are hardly the only 4 men who have ever died in service of the country, though. You act like this sort of thing has never happened before.

    The 'lie' about the video seems utterly inconsequential. If she said they'd been killed by giant sloths from Jupiter, they'd still be just as dead.

    But I understand the right-wing outrage machine has decided this is THE WORST THING IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

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    Wow! I don't think I have ever read anything that would be a better example of a man with head up ass.
     
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    I do separate the two. I most certainly don't want a liberal slanted court. The makeup of the court with Scalia ruled fairly for both sides. The liberal court would not, nor would it pay much attention to the constitution. Consider abortion was not overturned with a conservative court, but the EPA was made to pay fair market value for property it decreed worthless.

    Even though republicans have picked many justices, enough of those have been liberal that you cannot guarantee Trump's picks will do what he wants I seriously doubt they will.
     
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    Unsurprising. Similarly, I can think of no better example of a man with head up ass than someone able to overlook all of Trump's lies, crimes, lack of experience, grade-school behavior, etc.

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    I actually agree with you on that. However, setting ideology aside, Trump is more likely to pick a bad justice. He has a lousy track record hiring people.

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    I think you're making shit up as you go along.

    And I don't know where to being with this load of horseshit, there's not much right about it.
     
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    Well, I only said two things, and one of them was that I agreed with you.

    You think Trump has made good hires? Which ones? Obviously you think Kellyanne is a great hire, since you repeat everything she says. But who else?

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    My only view of this next target of your misogyny is that Trump's fortune did take a turn for the better when he hired her.

    Whoever he's hired, he's made $3.7B (lowest estimate) in wealth. How does that compare with your success? LOL

    You said 3 things. They should have taught you to count before 5th grade.
     
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    And what about her two predecessors? Do you think they were good hires also?

    Not sure, next time my dad leaves me a fortune we'll see how I do with it. There are suggestions that he'd have done just as well if he'd just bought an index fund and left it alone all these years.

    In any case, his hiring for the campaign is pretty atrocious. And he can't appoint himself or his kids to the supreme court (although maybe he'd try).

    Or maybe you aren't making the connection that the second thing and the third thing are the same thing.

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  17. Denny Crane

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    He won the primaries, and was ahead after the republican convention. So yes, he hired the right people. And he fired them and hired the next right people. You're not making any sort of convincing argument.

    Trump's dad left him $14M? He didn't get the rest of his $3.7B as gifts from family. $3.7B return on $14M investment is fantastic no matter how you spin it.
     
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    No, his dad left him more than that (the exact number is unknown to the public, but it is said that he was worth ~$200M, not all of which Donald got). The $14M was apparently how much he borrowed from dear old dad.

    His dad also guaranteed the bank loans on his early projects. And made him an illegal loan in the casino years, too.

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    Neither are you. So when he loses next month, will that then prove that all his hiring was bad, since according to you winning the primaries proves the hiring was good?

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    He turned all that into $3.7B. Nice return on the investment, period.
     

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