El Presidente tells Obama to "Go to Hell"

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  1. riverman

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    Tell that to John Boehner...or he gets a free pass?
     
  2. riverman

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    any competent manager has the ability to fire people who don't do their job....the president can't fire congressmen
     
  3. JFizzleRaider

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    Nobody gets a free pass. Obama is the president though, so he is the top leader.
     
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    So? He needs to manage what is given to him and get both sides to work together.

    Managers that manage union people cant fire people willy nilly either.
     
  5. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

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    It's not on ANY president to get congress to work together. Mitch McConnell, a Republican "leader", has made it exceedingly clear he wants nothing to do with Obama and has bent over backwards to obstruct him. The Supreme Court vacancy is just one prime example. Obama offered up a reasonable compromise in Merrick Garland. McConnell gave him the finger. He does not want to compromise or work with Obama in any way, shape or form. He's holding his breath and praying the election goes his way. Helluva gamble if he loses, because then he has to deal with even farther to the left Clinton. That is on McConnell and the Republicans, not Obama. Obstructionism only leads to more obstruction (because we all know payback is an MF). In a perfect world we'd all live in cooperation and harmony......but this ain't a perfect world and is getting farther from it every day.
     
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  6. Denny Crane

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    I've backed up the surrender fact with hard evidence. From period reporting to dictionary definitions.

    Boehner wasn't liked by his own caucus because he wanted to work with Obama.

    Obama's job is to lead. Leading means getting people to agree.

    That means for the forces agreement with Iraq that he failed to negotiate, and to heaping praise on the Iraqi PM while he was punishing Sunni and stirring up ISIS - instead of leading and getting the PM to not punish the Sunni.

    All that blood and treasure we spent in Iraq, thrown away due to poor decision making and lack of leadership ability.
     
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    How many bills passed congress and signed by Obama?

    The facts don't support your narrative.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/in-case-you-missed-it-congress-passed-some-big-bills-in-2015/

    In case you missed it, Congress passed some big bills in 2015

    But after half a decade of divided government, in which congressional Democrats worked to stymie President George W. Bush and, conversely, congressional Republicans used every opportunity to block or roll back President Obama’s agenda, something changed in 2015: Congress passed significant bipartisan legislation that was signed into law by the president.

    Earlier than 2015?

    http://blogs.rgj.com/factchecker/2013/10/12/has-the-u-s-house-passed-zero-bills-in-past-3-years/

    Fact Checker searched for all bills “passed/agreed to in House” that were introduced during the three years from Oct. 7, 2010 through this past Monday.

    The results? During the past three years, the U.S. House of Representatives has not passed “no bills.” In fact, the current session of the House alone has passed 269. If we add in the two previous sessions of Congress — still just covering bills introduced in the past three years — the House has passed a total of 1,203 bills.

    If we include the two previous sessions and still deal only with bills introduced in the past three years, the House has OK’d 943 bills that were signed by President Obama.


     
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    How many bills passed congress and signed by Obama?

    The facts don't support your narrative.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/in-case-you-missed-it-congress-passed-some-big-bills-in-2015/

    In case you missed it, Congress passed some big bills in 2015
    But after half a decade of divided government, in which congressional Democrats worked to stymie President George W. Bush and, conversely, congressional Republicans used every opportunity to block or roll back President Obama’s agenda, something changed in 2015: Congress passed significant bipartisan legislation that was signed into law by the president.

    Earlier than 2015?

    http://blogs.rgj.com/factchecker/2013/10/12/has-the-u-s-house-passed-zero-bills-in-past-3-years/

    Fact Checker searched for all bills “passed/agreed to in House” that were introduced during the three years from Oct. 7, 2010 through this past Monday.

    The results? During the past three years, the U.S. House of Representatives has not passed “no bills.” In fact, the current session of the House alone has passed 269. If we add in the two previous sessions of Congress — still just covering bills introduced in the past three years — the House has passed a total of 1,203 bills.

    If we include the two previous sessions and still deal only with bills introduced in the past three years, the House has OK’d 943 bills that were signed by President Obama.
     
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    So now you're saying Obama did have a successful relationship with Congress.....they worked with him...I thought you said Obama didn't play fair or work with Republicans to get things done...now you're saying he got all this done and congress was working hard for our better interests.....we apparently watched the same movie but with different characters.....I think Congress was extremely lazy and repeatedly walked out of the room when they didn't get their way.
     
  10. MarAzul

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    Oh my! And it's Wednesday too.

    The GOP didn't shut the government down! Obama did, and the GOP folded. They should shut the government down and correct the debt increasing daily, with Obama or without him.
    It is simply unacceptable to have the debt increasing daily at the rate it currently does.

    Obama wants a tax increase, well how fucking dumb it that? We lose businesses almost daily because of our high taxes. Then there is the fact, that our debt is so high, if Obama could find a way to confiscate the entire wealth of the top 1% that we hear about all too often, we would still have a humongous debt. Who the hell are you going to tax the shit out of then?
     
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    Our govt has been in a contested divorce between Dems and Republicans since I was born....that hasn't changed and it didn't start with the Bush era either.
     
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    Did they or did they not walk off the job when faced with not being able to fund govt? Did they or did they not go on vacation and vote themselves raises? The debt Obama inherited was necessary to prime the pump of failed auto industry, banking industry, etc....Obama didn't enter office with a surplus and everything humming along efficiently...but he did fix the problem...we have to retool our infrastructure...and we are turning the debt around right now. I think Obama has been a very good president and history will reflect that years from now...I think a the GOP has exposed itself as a dying empire....soon Rome will turn into Italy
     
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    Apparently not Donald Trump....businesses apparently can wiggle right out of paying any taxes and profit from failure....I'm taxing the hell out of Donald Trump
     
  14. MarAzul

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    I bet you are a good fisherman.
     
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    I'm learning...I can cast better now but I'm not even close to being a good fisherman yet...I plan to be though one day
     
  16. MarAzul

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    I got my first spinning reel, a Mitchel 300 when I was about 16 years old. It was sort of a bribe to take a couple guys Steelhead fishing. Ah those were the days! But my fishing skills haven't improved since.
     
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    As long as your fishing stories skills improve you're good.
     
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    Well, those may have topped out too.
     
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    That's easily corrected by drinking more when you're telling them.
     
  20. MarAzul

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    Oh! You have never seen that action. I am pretty sure it is just as well.
     
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