The 2nd Presidential Debate - The Donald vs The Hillary!

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  1. MarAzul

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    Ha! I was just about to point out, that Wikileaks is doing the job of informing the American people, like the press did in days gone by.
    The press informed us of the shit Nixon did 40 years ago, now we need Wikileaks and perhaps the Russians to do the job for us in Clinton's case.
    Otherwise, she would still be blaming a fucking video with the press backing her up.

    But the "Monday morning" softened my tone.
     
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    Gosh! Remember when?
     
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    He's afraid to acknowledge the truth.

    It's that simple.
     
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    By your logic, all media organizations that provide political endorsements are PACs, and then would be prohibited from interviewing any candidate they endorse.
     
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    Some really are. Rush Limbaugh's show, for example, has always bothered me as a form of illegal campaign donation.

    If the media is impartial, by definition they are not a PAC. If the media organization is deliberately pushing a candidate (beyond editorial), then they are a PAC.

    Here we have lots of evidence, from leaked emails, of outright collusion between the crook's campaign and non-editorial arms of the media organizations.
     
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    You confuse fear with doubt...and truth with interpretation...weren't you the one who said all history is an illusion...forget it all? Go to WikiLeaks and learn the new version? ok.......choices
    and by the way....you can just speak directly to me...no fears
     
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    They still haven't adapted to the internet throughout the media....it's clumsy...especially for many of my generation of americans. Remember when nobody cared about most of this crap and we went ahead with life free to think our own thoughts? TOO MUCH INFORMATION is not always such a great thing. I was using the public library computers and a homeless local guy was using one next to me and showed me my property on Google earth..he knows what my truck looks like....is this great?
     
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    Sorry river. It has always been a great thing to know when your leader is lying through her(his) teeth. This is the reason the press has special protections in our law.
    We now are in a very dangerous place where our leaders collude with the press so that we only see the lies. Now we only get information from a source that our government has issued a warrant to arrest the person!??!?? Damn man! We are in trouble. It ought to scare the hell out of every person, no one should find a way to support this scenario.
     
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    I understand the concerns but my point is...how is anyone surprised by any of this....our politicians have always manipulated the press...sometimes with just cause, sometimes not...but I don't think this is a media problem, but a dysfunctional partisan problem. Vote Gary Johnson....he won't lie to you or pretend to have info he doesn't have...that's my solution
     
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    Abu Grahib. Too much information?

    If you say no, then you're just cherry picking.
     
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    we can define each other all day....I don't deny Abu Grahib at all....I'm not voting for her either...you trust news that rings true to your agenda and so do I....we didn't get to pick cherries this season...birds got them but the pear crop was great,,,,,and yes...this campaign has way too much information...so many people have stopped thinking for themselves and just practice regurgitating news feeds...it's hard to have heartfelt conversations around here because one ends up talking to a story instead of a human being
     
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    We've had this Abu Grahib discussion by the way....you should know where I stand on the issue..you blame Hillary for it....she does shoulder responsibility for her part in it but I blame the terrorist that killed those folks..
     
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    Abu Grahib is the prison in Iraq where US soldiers were busted treating the prisoners cruelly.

    Thanks WikiLeaks.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/22/wikileaks-iraq-war-logs-i_n_772658.html

    WikiLeaks’ Iraq War Logs: U.S. Troops Abused Prisoners For Years After Abu Ghraib

    Despite a vigorous attempt by the Pentagon to stop WikiLeaks from releasing 400,000 pages of classified military documents about the Iraq War, the group has gone ahead with its latest document dump.

    To search the documents, click here. And if you find something interesting, tell us about it by emailing wikileaks@huffingtonpost.com

    Most shockingly, the documents allegedly show that U.S. troops abused prisoners for years even after the Abu Ghraib scandal and that the U.S. ignored systemic abuse, rape and even murder by Iraqi police and soldiers, according to several news reports.

    In one of the most devastating reports, a U.S. Apache helicopter engaged insurgents involved in a mortar attack upon coalition forces near Baghdad. After firing a series of 30mm rounds, the helicopter’s crew (with the callsign “Crazyhorse”) radioed to their command, explaining that the insurgents “wanted to surrender.” The response was stark: “CRAZYHORSE cleared to engage ... Lawyer stated they cannot surrender to aircraft.”

    The Apache crew killed the men, according to the report:
     
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    Good catch...my bad, I was thinking of the embassy.....sleep deprived when I wrote that...Abu Grahib torture doesn't surprise me...horrible that shit like that happens.
     
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    WAR SUCKS
     
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    you meant thanks huffington post though
     
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    No, I meant WikiLeaks. They became famous for dumping documents during the Bush administration that made the Iraq thing look worse than it already did.

    HuffPost would gladly glom onto bad news for Bush from WikiLeaks. But bad news for the liar?
     
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