I was wondering how long it would take. So..yes ALL of them are mental midgets. NOT one smart one tonsay hey...this is a great opportunity to score a solid defensemen for , what 400k, that even if he doesnt work put what is the most i lose...400k at the most? Even if no one believes he was first round worthy ...teams pick up undrafted players that cost more. No one wanted to take that chance? Not one gm, assistant gm, coach, advance scout, minor league scout....not one had enough common sense to stand up and say my captain oh captain please we would look totaly stupid not to steal this gem away from the rangers. You are right, the kid played well ...cant refuse that. Oscar Lindberg looked like brett hull scoring early last year. Small sindow of games. So every game the rangers lose we are going to hear how dylan would have made the difference now. Jus another former first roumd bust just like big Hugh...the terrific Bobby S...this team should be banned from drafting in the firstround as they are as good as my new york jets.
Try opening your eyes 717. How many GM's in sports year after year can never develop or draft talent unless their team flat out sucks and is drafting high enough where they get chances at can't miss talents? I've said for years there are very few top GM's and sports and it is obvious. Most of them are that way because they have a top scout which is the key to evaluating talent. It's not the GM who is the talent evaluator. It's the scouts. Mostly, the head scout. I also didn't say every GM dumbass. As usual you can't read. I said 95% and I stand by that. Most of these GM's never win a damn thing in their careers. Most end up getting fired. Most have no ability to make a team a winner unless they suck bad enough to get a top pick. To the credit of Clark, he's found player after player with our moron GM's trading away top draft picks. IMO, he's one of the top 10 scouts in any sport and he's a lot smarter than the moron GM's running teams. Once again you show your lack of hockey knowledge. You think GM's evaluate talent. LMAO. GM's are sitting on their fat asses for the most part in their office while scouts are out watching the players. Then the lazy GM looks at a few tapes of players or maybe goes to see them in a few games and you think he knows how to evaluate talent. Gimme a break.
LOL you didn't say all but you said 95%. So 122 teams in the four major sports and you're standing by 116 of GM being morons. But not all of them!!! Also, you're not producing any breaking news by saying teams have scouting departments. You're just remiss in not mentioning who hires these scouts in the first place. Here was your statement about what was going to happen. What a fucking disgrace. Prediction, an Eastern conference team signs him and he spends the next 10 years crushing our forwards and knocking them out for extended periods of time. Unbelievable. If he isn't claimed it's because AV has been telling the league he sucks for years. He's going to get claimed but to cover myself I better blame AV in case he doesn't get claimed. Now he wasn't claimed because you feel every general manager is a moron. You end up all over the place over one player who contrary to overrated beliefs is not some savior.
To me I am not sure how anyone can argue McIlrath has no value in the league right now. Blame AV I guess, but other teams aren't stupid and blind. If they truly thought McIlrath had value and could be an asset right now, they would have claimed him for essentially nothing. That didn't happen. Speaks for itself I think. I am happy he is still here. Hopefully he improves and has an impact at some point this season.
This isn't correct Al, the half salary rule was for claiming a player on re-entry waivers, which have been abolished under the new CBA. A team would have had to claim him at full salary. He was never going to be the savior but I think he was, and is, better than what we have back there now. That's about the extent of it for me. Either way, there's a game today and I'd like to see the guys actually here play well instead of playing the who was right, who was wrong game.
Still not sure what the Rangers have with McIlrath with his limited play, I just want to see the guy get 20-30 straight games and if he's so glaringly awful cut him loose and move on. But that hasn't happened, I'd like things to work out with Dylan but to keep him around for the last 2 years if AV had no intentions of playing him doesn't make good business sense and was a waste of a roster spot. He may play an old style type of hockey to some but last year's Cup finalists were the leading 2 hit/shot blockers per game. AV has taken the team in a new direction and McIlrath may not be a part of it but unfortunately the team's performance has been going in the wrong direction too. Making the Stanley Cup is a tough act to follow but the bottom line to me was LA physically outplayed us by a wide margin as did Tampa the following year followed by Pitt last year. Gorton made some nice additions to increase the size and speed of the forwards but defensively they remain a weak squad.
I've never been a believer in 95% of GM's. I think they are imbeciles that go the job because they know somebody. Think about it. Other than the Pats and maybe the Steelers what team is good year after year in football? Answer. Almost none. The NBA is a joke. The only GM that wins there consistently without having top picks every 3-4 years or top FA's form a dream team is the Spurs GM. In baseball, I would say maybe the Giants GM and perhaps Theo. Even though he has money he makes teams winners. In hockey. Without tanking it for 5 years. I can't think of any. The ex Hawks GM had lots of top picks and has with his new team. If you think about it. Clark has done an unreal job with low to no picks. He always praised McIlrath. It's AV who is the freakin problem.
The problem is more and more sports and teams are using analytics instead of having people physically going out and scouting players. The NFL at least offers a combine where the players physical performance and skills are measured. It's all subjective anyway and based on one thing and that's winning. Jerry Jones looks great right now because Dallas is winning and he drafted Prescott and Elliot. If they start losing he goes back to being terrible and he should just worry about owning the team.
Whatever at this point, they screwed up and way overdrafted someone and missed out on a few AS types. Heard that song before. All we can do is move forward and hope they do well with 1sts going forward. Unfortunately right now the defense is below average and it's going to hurt us this year despite a really solid O.
This might bet he best topic of all time, I couldn't resist giving my 2 cents, First of all, You guys haven't been watching this dude as much as the people closest to him, Half you guys acting like this guy is Jeff Bukaboom in his prime, The NHL has changed, this guy is not a TOP 4 d pairing, so hence he is useless really, Jeff wouldn't be a top 4 D pairing in modern NHL, This guy isn't chara. Hes played "ok" at best, The fact that the WHOLE NHL passed up on him, including desperate defensive teams like the bruins, must say a lot to you guys. Its ok guys, hes the defensive version of pavel brendle, Move on , a overrated top 10 guy. Hes not a shutdown guy, Hes not gonna be a physical force that forces crosby to avoid the middle, He would have circles being run around him. You guys overvalued him because he was a top 10 guy. if he was drafted in the third round, nobody would be surprised right now, unless you guys have watched most of his AHL career, or known how he practice's , don't act surprised when people who have evaluted him for years send him to waivers. With this being said, go rangers!
Unfortunately, you know nothing about the game of hockey to make that assessment regarding Dylan. I will break it down for you from my perspective and I am sure many will disagree but I am speaking as a coach with no access to the Rangers practices just game footage. Lets take a look at the issue of him clearing waivers, personally, I expected it because the cap implications (800k) for someone who will be on the open market next year does not make sense right now. Let him go down and play in order to build up his confidence them teams will make him an offer. To say he will toil in the AHL is nonsense. 2014-2015 season, he was one of if not the most depended on D man at Hartford. Boston does not need a rental D because they have WAY to many issues to address. Granted the season is young but they are just horrible. Now, back to Dylan, if anyone watched him play with extended game time, he was good for a 2nd-3rd pair. He did bring the physical force to the table and yes people did notice him on the ice. Hell, Crosby made a comment as such. Does that mean he was going to change the face of the game from the D stand point by himself, no but people did have their had an a swivel paying attention to him when he was on the ice. Beuk has done nothing but praise this kid each step of the way. Dylan is a stay at home D who can shoot the puck and clear the crease. That type of player is not going to go away. Look at what the Kings did to us in the CUP finals. They did it will a combination of stay at home D partnered with the offensive minded counterpart. Dylan and the Rangers in general are victims of AV system. It is a soft system and didn't work in Vancouver and it will not work here to bring home a CUP. We are not able to play the grittiness type of hockey a team needs to go all the way. Just my 2 cents as well.
I was shocked that he did not get claimed. He may not be Rob Blake but he would certainly be a very capable 6th d-man for any team. Ultimately it is what it is, and if everyone else passed on him it's because there just isn't a market for him at the moment.
DM can play in the NHL, he's proven that. His toughness, strength, and hitting ability are elements that teams need. But, this team is modeled off last year's Pens. AV wants a fast playmaking team. The downside is they are a little soft. Speed kills now and DM doesn't have it. Holden is not that fast but makes good plays with the puck. With that said I think he is still better than Clendening.
I said 5 times already. Two of the Pens defenseman last year were slower than whale shit floating to the bottom. McIlrath is considerably faster. His skating is fine. AV is a fucking thickhead. We saw that all year with Glass. How many years did I say the Rangers drafted to be a 4 scoring, line time. AV took what? Three years to figure that out. I repeat, 95% of all GM's are morons which is why McIlrath wasn't picked up. How those imbeciles in Toronto didn't claim him is beyond me because their defenseman are an embarrassment for the most part.
When McIlrath played for extended stretches last year, he proved he was a serviceable NHL player. Sorry, but anybody who is trying to dispute that is flat wrong. Despite solid play he was made a healthy scratch because of our coach's loyalty to a veteran leader even though that player was hobbled by injury. After being a healthy scratch for a lot of last year (an important development year) and most of the playoffs, he had a dogshit preaseason when a lot of teams were watching him. Now throw in (a) an 800k price tag when he can just be signed next summer, when teams can more easily build him into their cap planning and (b) an emphasis on speed and skill in the league right now. Those are the reasons he was unclaimed. He is an NHL player. I saw it with my own eyes. Whether he gets another chance is a completely different question.
I agreed with a lot of what you said until this. So his system is good enough to win 15 playoff games but not 16? Why even bother watching if you're already sure of the ultimate outcome? Anything can happen in the NHL playoffs and these declaratory statements that so confidently declare playoff failure for the Rangers as if it is a mathematical certainty drive me up a damn wall.
You telling me Carolina with 16 million in cap space wouldnt take a flyer on dylan because they would rather wait until he is a free agent...one of the worst gaa right now...800k is to much...and it wouldnt be straight up 800k because they would release someone to make room.. Sorry but i call bullshit.
So you cherry pick one individual reason that on it's own sounds ridiculous, yet completely ignore all the other facts that I listed and that I said they all combined to lead to him going unclaimed. Solid logic right there. You'd be a good politician. Also, Carolina has a very deep and young blue line. Pesce, Hanifin, Faulk...that's one of the last teams that would have claimed him, cap or not.
His negatives of limited ice time, limited contract and two major injuries outweigh the positives for most GMs. AV went out of his way to not play him the last 2 years. If this doesn't light a fire under his ass to dominate in Hartford it's time to part ways.
So aquiring a cheap asset that could free up using another asset to trade for a young winger or center is out of the question. Makes sense. If the mets could aquire a young cheap pitcher that has some decent talent, they would say naw...we got plenty of pitchers. It doesnt make sense... Arizona....another team with a lot of youth and cap space..not interested Columbus None of them want to take on 800k for a guy some on here say could be a top 4 dman..hell ever a #7 dman for that price is cheap. But wait...they could get him for free next season...they getting him for free now!
