Official Around the NBA October/November 2016

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by PDXFonz, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Not really. In the regular season of the NBA this stuff happens all the time. The Warriors had a big game against the Thunder the night before.....not a huge surprise they were not mentally into it.
     
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    When they first got KD I said that anything that reduces the number of 3-point attempts by Curry/Klay is good in my book. They may have more weapons on the floor, but they can still only shoot one ball at a time, and I'd rather have KD shooting than Curry.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Durant's been shooting out of his mind though. I think that he'll regress a bit. Of course, the other 3 aren't shooting well but Klay shot horribly in the Olympics as well. He might be a sub 35% 3pt shooter this year.
     
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    LeBron James passes Hakeem Olajuwon for 10th all-time on the NBA's scoring list.
     
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    That sounds so crazy... I wonder where he ends up after the season
     
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    No need to fix something that isn't broken. They had a damn near perfect 2015-16 season. Keep the same guys and improve on your weaknesses where you can.
     
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    He has a good chance of passing Shaq, the 7th all-time scoring leader, this season.
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Wes went 3-17 tonight against the bucks. 3-14 from three point range. Mavs fans must be shitting a brick with this guy.
     
  9. Sarni

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    Seen some rumors about Klay being unhappy at Warriors and them willing to trade him. I would not be surprised if it was true, his numbers this year have been abysmal and he cannot be too happy with 4th man role when he could easily be a go-to player at more than half of the league's teams. I don't know who would have the assets to trade for him. Philadelphia would love him but aside from Nerlens Noel (who Warriors could use a lot) and a couple of picks, there is no offer they could come up with, and they do not have a shooting guard to compensate for Warriors' loss here. Celtics have been looking for a star and they can send both shooting guard (Bradley), a big (Amir Johnson) and a few picks, which make them viable destination. Also seen Bucks linked, apparently with Jabari Parker and Middleton on offer, which would be kind of good for Warriors, if it wasn't for the fact that Middleton is out for long. Knicks would be an absolute perfect destination for him, big market with some old but decent talent, and he would immediately become their best player, but unless Warriors are willing to do this for several picks plus mid-tier shooting guard like Lee, this is a complete no go. Well, they could give them Porzingis which would actually be a great deal for Warriors, but I would not expect them to.

    Funny situation that because lots of teams could use him, but not many have the ability to put up a trade offer. Actually we are the ones who could come up with by far the best package if we offered them CJ and a few of the role players that we have. Even if we offered Crabbe to replace him at SG and several other assets (say Aminu, Leonard and Davis), it would be a good offer for Warriors. Not sure we would be willing to replace CJ at this point though, seems pretty pointless.
     
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    If we are offering CJ AND a few role players, we better get back a better player than Klay...

    Klay=Overated.
     
  11. Natebishop3

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    I'm pretty sure CJ makes a lot more than klay.... like..... A LOT more once his new deal kicks in. So even if we wanted to deal CJ for Klay, I think it would have to be a three team deal.
     
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    Aye, makes no sense for Warriors. For them the best solution would be to trade him for someone cheaper than Thompson, a role player or two and draft picks. That's why Boston could perhaps come up with the best package centered around Bradley, one of their younger players and Brooklyn's pick. It would be also better for Warriors than dealing with Sixers because they may fear that sending a competent shooter and a good defensive player who will immediately become a leader there like Thompson would elevate Sixers to something more than awful team they look to be right now, especially next to Simmons and Embiid. However sending him to Boston does not affect the pick they would get in return because that is dependent on Brooklyn who are, and still will be for a long time, a bottom 5 team (probably bottom 1).

    Would Boston do that? They've been eager to get that superstar for a while. Thompson will be a better scorer than Bradley, they have cap to do this (especially if they offload Amir Johnson who makes $10M) and they won't lose defensively if they replace Avery with Klay while gaining offensively.

    For some reason the team I would like to see Klay most on are the Knicks. They absolutely do not have the assets to get this done but somehow I think he would really relish playing there.

    For Portland it really makes no sense. Backcourt is the last area where we should be looking for improvements.

    Well, one team that could use him and have the assets are Utah. He's better than Hood but Warriors could replace him with Hood if Klay asked for a move, and they could also push Utah into giving them some valuable assets in return. They won't get Gobert because he will be a very high earner soon but they could get someone else, or involve third team to get the assets flying in. Thompson in this Utah team might make them contenders, a reliable scorer to compliment Gordon Hayward.
     
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    I don't think GSW has any interest in CJ. They basically had CJ when they ran a back court of Curry/Monta. It's clear they didn't like running a small, all-offense, no-defense back court. Even though CJ is the best player we could offer then (because we're NOT offering Dame), I think they'd actually prefer some of our players lower down the totem pole - Crabbe, Plumlee, Meyers, Davis. But it sounds like there are MANY teams that would be able to put together a much better package. BOS/Bradley or PHI/Noel&Picks both sound better than anything we could offer.

    For the record, I REALLY hope nobody in the West gets Bradley...unless it's us.
     
  14. Natebishop3

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    I don't know, I think the best situation would be a young talent on a cheap contract, some role players, and a pick.

    Phoenix or Utah.

    The Suns aren't going to be a playoff team this year.

    Phoenix could do Booker and Tyson Chandler.

    Utah could do Rodney Hood/Joe Johnson (as soon as Joe is tradeable.)
     
  15. rotary111

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    Forget Klay, who would the Bucks want from us for Jabari and possibly Middleton, maybe we end up taking Monroe off their hands to complete the deal??
    Jabari would be awesome on this team! Of course Middleton too if he was healthy.
     
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    I have been wanting Jabari for a while.... but it would probably cost CJ.

    We just don't really have anyone else that is a young talent equal to Parker. Maybe Vonleh if he showed that he can contribute regularly, but they have Thon and Henson.
     
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    If Noah showed that he can contribute regularly, we wouldn't trade him. This team is desperate for a third scorer.
     
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    If Philly wanted him, they for sure have the best assets. I don't think they really need to offer a SG in return: for now the Warriors can start Iggy or Livingston while they groom Patrick McCaw, whom I've heard several people say was a steal for them. Philly can give them Stauskas, who would probably get much more open looks for Golden State and might look decent. So: Okafor/Saric/Noel/Stauskas for Klay? Throw in a pick or two and that's a pretty great offer, especially as it would enable the Warriors to have cap space for when they have to sign Curry and Durant to ridiculous deals. Nothing we have can rival that. If we get Klay it would have to be down the road in FA if he has a soft spot for his youth:
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    Won't need to offer all of Okafor, Noel and Saric IMO, that would be overload. Besides Okafor would be bad fit for Warriors.
     
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    I posted on another thread how they really are hurting with Middleton being out and Antetokoumpo playing some point for them, they could use a SF/2 guard and some combo of big's to go along with what they have. The reason I would add Monroe is because we could absorb him a consolidation trade making our offer stronger.
     

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