Watch before you vote

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  1. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

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    Sounds like Lincoln's work,
    First income tax,
    Tariffs,
    Huge debt. (First Nation to exceed a Billion dollar budget).

    But no Kentucky Congressman in this group. (until later).
     
  2. H.C.

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    Statements like this is why I detest the human race.
    Republicans & Democrats try to twist the truth to make themselves seem better than the other.
    Give me a break.
    But as sly has said previously.
    There is no way a closed minded Republican or Democrat will ever believe anything that isn't exactly what they want to believe.


    Ulysses S. Grant was a Republican president who once had slaves. However, there’s some nuance that should be considered before this factoid gets repeated out of context.
    First, Grant was not personally highly invested in the subject of slavery. He used slaves that were owned by his father-in-law, only one of which did he legally own. Furthermore, he freed that slave rather than selling him, which was a significant opportunity cost.
    Secondly, at the time in question the Republican Party was a fledgling and poorly-defined entity, and Grant didn’t clearly associate himself with it until a decade later after Lincoln had become president.
    Thirdly, this type of historical trivium is fundamentally deceptive because institutions change and reinvent themselves. That is, any comparison about “x number of Democrats had slaves while only y number of Republicans did” is fundamentally meaningless because it insinuates associations that aren’t relevant to contemporary politics. The pool of Democrats who could have owned slaves is much larger than the pool of Republicans who could have simply because the Democratic Party is significantly older. And while the Republican Party was established with an interest in the Abolitionist Movement, it lost any claim to being less racist by instituting the Southern Strategy to elect Nixon.
    Some individual Republicans deserve credit for acknowledging the injustice of the Southern Strategy, but as an institution the party has failed to adequately address the subject in a way that would indicate sincere contrition or a will to fix the problem.

    I'm sure you'll find a way to twist this to make it seem like the republican party is less racist due to "never owning slaves".
    Typical political bullshit that both the major parties are guilty of.
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The Southern Strategy? The Democrat from Alabama ran as an independent and won all these southern states, below.

    The electoral vote was 301 Nixon (even without those southern states), Humphrey 191, Wallace 46.



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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Voting for Hillary at 10am.
     
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    How many times?
     
  8. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    How has New Yorks Electoral college vote gone from 43 back during this vote to 29 currently?



    Isn't it population based?
     
  9. MarAzul

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    Wow! I loved your obvious dive into the depths of history. But I guess I don't understand the "Southern Strategy" thing for Nixon. I detested that guy, never voted for him.
    But on the other hand, I think there is an interesting association from back then and contemporary politics.

    You would think, the black people would hang with the Republicans, after all, they were only Party to ever help. But some how some way, Mr Roosevelt changed all that!
    I sure as hell can't see why? and even if I did, that was 70 friggin years ago.
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Yes.

    New York's population has fled the state for less "liberal" locations.
     
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    If you are a republican, you aren't necessarily a white supremacist.

    But if you are a white supremacist, you are probably a republican.

    If you are a republican, you aren't necessarily a bible thumping homophobe.

    But if you are a bible thumping homophobe, you are probably a republican.

    This can't really be argued against unless you lack common sense.

    So, all the "democrats were for slavery!" stuff, while completely accurate, means precisely squat.

    Democrats suck too so don't even go there. Clinton is basically the Bush administration with slightly less god fearin'. I mean, George bush endorsed her for gods sake. Isn't that a red flag for the progressives out there?

    And for all the shit "liberals" take from the idiot teabagger crowd, you would think they would be at least a little, you know, liberal. "Obama has changed the very fabric of America!" Lol please.

    Obama kills civilian kids for breakfast. He sucks monsanto cock, pharma cock, oil cock, insurance cock, and any other cock big enough to warrant a nice sloppy blowjob. Its been business as usual for the last 8 years.

    All the Obama hate from republicans is just code for one thing. "He's black! Can't you see he's black!? There's n******* eating off the White House china!"

    It's fucking pathetic, and idiots like that should kill themselves.

    So...Death to the GOP?

    It sounds nice, but the Dems swooped in and stole all the middle and most of the moderate right, just a little less racist, a little less bigoted, and a little less white. They are the new GOP as far as I'm concerned, we need to balance the power of the force.
     
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  12. MarAzul

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    Wow! A lot of strong words here, not sure if they all pull in unison or even complementary. Sound like one pissed off fella. But Sly likes it, perhaps he can translate.
     
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    Yeah I'm pissed off. We are going to have another piece of shit president. Thanks to our piece of shit country being too stupid to care.
     
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  14. MarAzul

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    I am quite sure you don't fit this category. All though I don't think I do either. But I am not at all sure we both could be happy. Today.
     
  15. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I like this post also but don't agree 100 percent. All the Obama hate isn't because of his skin color. I heard him speak 4 years before he ran for President and wanted to vote for him right then and there without knowing anything about him.

    Fast forward to finding out how completely far off from my beliefs he is it is a different story now. Plus you yourself point out how much of a corporate knob slobberer he is so you can see how people can dislike him because of his policies.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I saw a woman on the news crying because she finally got to vote for a woman for President. We should all be crying after voting this year but not in a joyful manner
     
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    I guess I wasn't clear, I meant the shit he gets from the right.

    From my end, he ran on universal healthcare for fucks sake. He lied about damn near everything. He's been a huge disappointment.
     

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