Politics Trump just announced he will not repeal Obamacare

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  1. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    So how about a compromise?

    Amend the ACA to:

    -Keep your insurance if you like it.
    -Keep your doctor if you like him/her
    -Eliminate the requirement for insurance...OR....eliminate the tax penalty.

    Perhaps there should be a deal about co-pays to where you don't pay, or your insurance company works with you, based on your income. But I'm not up to speed on that portion of it, so I'm speculating there.
     
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  2. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    The problem is, not everyone gives a fuck about being healthy so you have tons of dip shits eating cheetos and drinkin mt dew all day having to go to the doctor countless times.

    What's this do to the cost of the single payer system, it bloats it the fuck up. What do they do then? Raise everyone's taxes.

    We all get fucked then. And the healthy person (me/you/dviss hes svelt) gets ass-raped.

    No thanks.
     
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  3. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Nope. Repeal and replace with single payer. You will pay less. WAY less.
     
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    that sucks. You are the classic "stuck in the middle" case. That needs to get fixed.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    A lot of people are in this boat.
     
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    It is expensive....I never contended that point..I make less than that on purpose now...but I own my home and am comfortable...I would not pay 1600 a month for a silver plan in that case....I'd shop around the market and get a better deal. Pretty sure you can find one cheaper than 1600 a month
     
  7. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    The problem with this is that NOBODY is healthy. Old people have problems, young people are always getting injured, children always get sick, stressed people always eat unhealthy and are fat/out of shape....ON TOP of being stressed and depressed in the first place!

    There are FAR more unhealthy people in this country than there are gym brats who keep themselves healthy.

    This.
     
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  8. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Silly. Everyone needs healthcare. What happens when you have an accident. You step on a nail or you fall down your steps?

    Why would y'all not pay a little extra in taxes to have your (you wanna complain about how high your monthly premium is) premium eliminated?

    I don't understand this logic.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    The logic is I do not want to have to pay more tax to pay for this dip shit.

     
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  10. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    But I would pay WAY MORE in taxes than I would to actually USE the service! I would be essentially paying for a service that I rarely use or need. I only need to see a doctor once or twice a year.

    There's something wrong with that!
     
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  11. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Speak for yourself. There are days when I referee 10 games in a day. That's 10 hours of sprinting.

    Earlier this year did a 15 minute jog to Milwaukie HS, refereed 7 games, jogged BACK home, and then gave my girlfriend 4 orgasms.

    I'm healthy as a horse.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    No you wouldn't. The next country down pays 3300 per year, per citizen. Our system costs twice that. You're simply wrong and I think you need to change kool-aid flavors.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Only four? Man, you're slacking!
    ;)
     
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    Sigh. Again: this is the same mentality of those who say "well, Obamacare is great for me, so it should be great for you too!"

    Not everyone runs 10 fucking miles every morning. In fact, most of the country is fat, out of shape, stressed, and depressed.

    Healthy people are the minority. MOST people have SOMETHING wrong with them.
     
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    "What's great for me is great for you!"
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    So what you're saying is you'd rather pay what you pay monthly for health care and rarely use it than pay half of that? That's just stupid. It doesn't matter who the money goes to. Themoney is going out. Why wouldn't you want to cut that in half?
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Problem is; saying half is arbitrary. You and nobody else here can prove that. Likely it would start out as half (or who knows more?), and then as the system was crushed by the fat-asses of the world (that video I linked is a great view into it), your and my bill goes up, and up, and up. There is no ceiling....

    Edit:

    You have to make an incentive for people to be healthy if you are going to put forth a single payer system. Otherwise it's a huge fail.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    The slippery slope argument is so tired. Employ a different tactic.
     
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    Cheeto eaters? Destroy our only chance at affordable universal healthcare because of some cheeto eaters?

    Some fat unhealthy fast food fucks have jobs. Some make a shitload of money. They will be putting in.

    As far as healthy people footing the bill, Im fine with doing my part to protect the nation medically. And knowing that everyone I know and everyone I care about is covered would be nice.

    Listen, I have pretty great insurance through work, but I'm trying to think big picture here. We need to make sure all of our citizens have access to life saving healthcare. We are the richest country in the history of the world. I mean shit. It's really just kind of pathetic that D.C. cant make it work.

    I understand the arguments against it, but it is generally thought that it would lower costs. The problem with it has been the quality part, and bringing this full circle, that's something that can be figured out, hopefully, by our fucking cheeto faced president.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Bottom line, we have diverted away from your candidate. He's not going to repeal it!

    Hilarious.
     

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