Politics Trump just announced he will not repeal Obamacare

Because contrary to what you believe, if the company I work for offers a good plan, and my insurance company works with me, I pay LESS than I would by paying made-up taxes for a service I never use. Since I don't have to pay a co-pay through my insurance when I'm not using it, as opposed to being charged with a tax on a routine basis.

 

This is circular. People will be more healthy if they have accessible health care.

 

Ok. Whatever you say man. If you can prove that costs wouldn't rise then please do so.

 

Oh snap!

 

Then, why are the ACA rates increasing ?

 

No. You prove that they won't. Because common sense says when you stop paying a middle man costs will go down.

C'mon...

 

That's bullshit. People will still be fat, depressed, cancer-infested, and disease-ridden. Having healthcare, regardless of who pays for it, is not a magic fucking wand for positive health.

 

I just showed you. Insurance companies are corporations. And the ONLY thing corporations have to do is make profit.

It's simple.

Take the profit out of healthcare.

 

Except you are not taking into account that the government will charge MORE for using their services. Hence the HIGHER TAXES.

 

Common sense, or your opinion?
Because history says that if Government needs more money they tax you. Government likely will need more money in a single payer system. You do the math.

 

You sir are so wrong about this.

Common sense says if I have access to PREVENTATIVE medicine I can stave off diseases like diabetes etc.

You're not making sense here.

 

That's another thing. Companies would save a lot of money if they didn't have to offer health insurance. Logically this extra money would be used to attract talented employees much in the way insurance was, so people (you) would be making more money.

 

There is no "likely" about it my friend. The government WILL charge BIG TIME for the use of their new "everyone must have this" healthcare service that they now own exclusive rights too.

To deny this is sheer ignorance. If you think Insurance companies charge a lot NOW, then look at how much they PAY OUT, and then give that to the government to charge BACK to the people to make up the difference.

Simple math.

 

You are assuming people actually care about doing this stuff. Take a look around dude. People are fucking blobs!

 

And this is where you're wrong. Medicare Advantage, which is completely unnecessary and we would save money by eliminating it, has a 14% overhead regular Medicare only has a 2% overhead. You aren't making sense.

 

Oh, I agree.

And whose to stop the doctors for charging outrageous fees for their service, because they know they'll get paid from the "Government healthcare slush fund".

Then the Government responds in kind by charging more taxes.

If anything is circular here, it's this scam.

 

medical and pharma price gouging.

 

Bullshit again. Having a healthcare card in your wallet no more makes you more healthy as a person than having a gun makes you a police officer.

It's a process that people have to WILLINGLY follow through on. And if you think Americans are going to do what's best for themselves to prevent disease, then you don't know America at all. Short of forcing people into the doctors office, you can't make someone healthy by giving them insurance.

 

And you don't think this wouldnt happen in a single payer system? It would, and it would directly attribute to a rise in taxes to cover the system.

It's a big fucking scam. Regardless of what system we have.

 

Yes, some people. The sick and unfortunate will always exist. Shouldn't we still care for them, as Americans? I mean the senate, house, and soon to be Supreme Court is rife with christians, so wwjd?