Fashion Designers Are Boycotting Melania Trump. Shouldn't Bakers and Florists Have the Same Right?

Nope, just laughing at people who have the us against them mentality so ingrained that they'll side with those who really hate them.

You don't think white people being told their opinions don't matter because they are white and especially male doesn't create some saltiness?

 

who the fuck cares about hurting white supremacists feelings? do you?

i mean shit!

 

So fucking stupid. Keep assuming every white person is a closet KKK member if you want.

If 20 year old crybullies keep it up they will create the enemy they think is so prevalent already.

 

wtf are you talking about? i assume no such thing.

i thought we were talking about people against interracial marriages. are you really trying to defend them? lol!

 

We were talking about muslims being against interracial marriage and you were worried about white supremacy.

 

im certainly not worried about it.

this implies that it is unfair that others dont get to say it. is that your position? is it something you would like to hear more often?

 

Not even fucking close.

I don't care about it at all, pointing out how stupid it is.

 

its all good man. but people are still allowed to disavow racists, and repudiate attempts to normalize them.

for now at least.

 

They'll always be able to say whatever they want as long as the first amendment still stands.

I don't see anyone but liberals shouting down opinions. Post some videos if you have any.

 

of course they are allowed to say whatever they want. im not sure where that is coming from.

but sorry, yes, i will shout down opinions of bigotry. join me.

 

You are the one who qualifies it with "for now"

I don't see where there is are free speech restrictions coming from in the near future...please share where this fear is justified.

 

i was being facetious. i thought that was clear, but i guess i was wrong. wouldnt be the first time!

 

Trump's rhetoric about opening up libel laws on journalists sure seems like a restriction on free speech. You don't even have to win a libel case to have the desired effect, just the threat of financial ruin as you get buried under a mountain of legal fees is enough to have a chilling effect on real investigative journalism.

 

I guess if he somehow passes some unconstitutional laws and gets right wing judges on the court then it seems possible. I'll wait and see.

 

I'm torn on this, but I immediately revert back to the 1st Amendment when I feel this way.

On one hand, it's impossible to ignore just how bad the media has gotten this past decade with the advance of social media and the internet. Pretty much anyone can call themselves a journalist and preach anything they want and get away with it.

And we've seen how damaging this can be for both sides: the Left and the Right. In Trump's case, EVERY SINGLE mainstream media source out there misconstrued, or completely blew out of proportion, almost everything that he said.

"Hates Mexicans"? Nope, he said he wants to reform the Immigration Policy of this country and kick out those who aren't paying up. There's no hate about that; it's rational thinking. We are in massive debt, we have nowhere to house them, we have no jobs for them, and we can't afford them. He wants to give those opportunities to those of us who are ACTUAL citizens of this country. Who pay taxes.

Then he went on to explain....in his own way.....that the people who are taking the most advantage of our over-burdened Immigration System are the Drug Cartels. You know....the ones who are rapists and murderers....

"Hates Muslims"? Nope. Again, he wants to keep them out until we fix the system so that we don't go down the toilet with a grossly out of control Muslim problem like they have in Europe.

And then they had the gall to call him Racist....when time and time again, as his history clearly shows, he is anything but.

So from his perspective, I agree that the so-called "Journalists" in this country need to be held either to a higher, non-biased standard, or they need to be held accountable for what they write.

At the same time....the 1st Amendment means "Freedom Of Speech". It doesn't matter what people say, short of a threat: it's their right to say it. A Journalist can say whatever the fuck he wants.

No easy answers here, I'm afraid. But one thing's for sure: the Media in this country is out of control. If there is a way to fix it without stepping on the 1st Amendment, then I'm all for it.

 

the 1st amendment specifically mentions the media (the press).

the way to fix it isnt very republican though, you need to break up all the giant media conglomerates. when a few companies own everything, they are much more easily able to push their narrative.

 

Funny you should think I did not read it. Especially since I went to the trouble of commenting about the lady.

While I applaud her ability to recognize peoples right to freedom of action and expression I fear she lacks the ability to make her point. She submerged the really issue that did indeed need
a word, she hid the issue behind her personal hatred of Trump up front.

"Personally, I applaud Theallet's design to disassociate herself with the next occupant of the White House. I see Donald Trump as a shameful human being with few redeeming qualities as a leader and even fewer as a person, and if I were a business owner, I too would decline to serve his administration."


You see, she justifies the declining to service the customer because of her personal distaste. The real reason, the natural right of freedom of association should be the salient point in her presentation. Not her correct thinking dislike for the man.

 

Did you know that Alan Alda is a racist?

 

Actually we have many more media companies now than we did 50 years ago. I has not helped like I would have hoped to see. Fifty years ago, Walter Cronkite gave me the word. Every now and then I would check with Chet to get the same word.