The Missing "Mean"

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  1. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Haha, I was just going to say that Blakey was like a little Pryzbilla. Steve wouldn't back down to anyone and he wouldn't hesitate to get into a boxing stance and prove it.
     
  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Whenever we've been REALLY good (like WCF or Finals good), we've had an enforcer at PF - a guy that rebounds, plays defense and doesn't back down from anyone. First it was Luke, then Buck and then BGrant.

    BNM
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Hell I'd take Kendrick Perkins right now.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Fuck defense, we just need to score 150pts a game.
     
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    You want a vet...pump fakin' Dorell Wright...also Dame's buddy
     
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    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    A savvy vet offensive general, sign Andre Miller.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'll believe it when I see it
     
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    Stotts is not a defensive coach but teams don't just go from middle of the pack defensively to bottom 3 in one year with no real big roster changes and no philosophical changes because of the coach. At this point there are fifty holes in a sinking ship and you have one bucket and a roll of duck tape to fix it, you can't fix everything so you patch up what you can and hope that every little fix leads to the next one being a little easir.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Stotts may not be a good defensive coach, but he's also working with a roster that really isn't capable of good defense. Lillard and McCollum make a horrendous defensive backcourt, there's no rim protection on the team as long as Ezeli is on the shelf, Harkless and Crabbe have never been good defenders according to advanced metrics and the team's two best perimeter defenders, Turner and Aminu are only decent--not stoppers.

    As long as you have that kind of personnel, no system is going to work--you can shuffle deck chairs to try and mitigate the worst problems, but good offensive teams are simply going to find the things you're trading off in your arrangement. Systems don't create talent--they enable talent. The Blazers don't have (defensive) talent.

    You could point the finger at Olshey for putting together a roster that can't play defense, but his hands were tied a bit by virtue of his best players being extreme defensive minuses. Unless you're down on the drafting of Lillard and McCollum, Olshey has been in a pretty difficult predicament from the start. It's probably not impossible to build a functional defense around Lillard and McCollum (though a top-five and maybe even a top-ten defense is probably impossible), it will be very difficult while maintaining a good offense. You could fix the defense quickest by installing defensive specialists (like a Biyombo type) at the other three positions, but then the offense would grind to a halt, as Lillard and McCollum would find their air space cramped by defenses collapsing onto them. Finding good two-way players is hard enough, but what Portland really needs is solid offensive players who are defensive standouts to cover for the backcourt. Finding enough of those will take a miracle.

    That's why I felt expectations for this team were too high going into this season. Portland rode a hot streak in the second half last season, and that was great. But there were clear problems that were going to prevent them from taking the next step and the likes of Turner and a rarely-present Ezeli weren't going to fix that.

    In my opinion, the eventual solution will likely be to trade McCollum. As much fun as he is, especially in combination with Lillard, he's likely to be more valuable to another team that can pair him with a superior defender. I don't think it's likely that you can win with two such players, but one such can be a big asset with the right supporting cast. Trading McCollum for a good offensive player who can also play solid defense would make building the rest of the team more manageable, in my opinion.
     
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    have you seen the video of him fighting at Maryland? if not here it is
     
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    There are only two players I would consider trading CJ for, Jimmy Butler, or Klay Thompson.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi, you must be new here! Welcome to RipCityTwo.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Thanks, long-time lurker, first-time poster.

    I never posted here before because SlyPokerDog is a real jerk. I hope I can say that without the object of my dislike being edited somehow.
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    As much as I wouldn't want it to happen, it might have to if they can't find another solution. Only thing is, CJ just signed a big extension over the summer with us and given the fact that Meyers got an extension, didn't sign it and we still signed him in the offseason even though he hasn't really done much in 5 years, it's gonna take something huge to pry CJ away from Olshey
     
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