CIA: Russia influenced the election

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

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    Did you watch the Olberman video? Holy shit I'd think it was fake if he didn't look to have tears in his eyes.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    He won't quote me, I'm on ignore.
     
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    No, I have your videos on ignore.
     
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    Then you'll love this redneck talking smack about Obama.

     
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    Sounds like a complete bullshit excuse to me. This democratic tactic is only hurting ALL American people as blocking or slowing the transition does nobody any good.

    Well played Obama, you're still shit as you walk out the door.

    Because they're mostly liberal mouthpiece, echo chamber, MSM garbage. You are brainwashed bro.
     
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    Imagine for one moment that all of the people in this video were who showed up if you called the police to report a home invasion.
     
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    Obama: "I'm taking my football and going home to cry."

    Thank goodness adults are about to take office.

    It's about time.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    What's interesting to me is that we have all these intelligence experts here in the forum able to divine what is true and what isn't just by reading other peoples' tweets. Also equally interesting is belief/disbelief seems to break exactly on party lines.

    Whether the Russians deliberately interfered or not in our elections, IF this really was just a Russian psy-op designed to destabilize our country and our trust in institutions, then I think you have to say it was a resounding success.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'll recommend a third perspective:
     
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    Shapiro made the Trump people really mad. I remember Mags making memes about him.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    And he makes progressives just as mad. Maybe he's doing something right?
     
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    Honestly, I have no idea what to believe on this Russia election hack story. I can't remember a time when there's been so much disinformation being floated around by the major institutions of our government. CIA saying one thing, FBI another, President pushing the CIA view but possibly for political purposes of discrediting Trump, President-elect Trump saying whatever the hell rabbit runs through his brain at the moment, former NSA agents saying other stuff. And then you have Assange saying it was an inside job, not the Russians.

    I think I'm significantly pissed, but I just don't know for sure who it is I'm pissed at yet.
     
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    You would have to ask yourself if Russia would have any reason(s) to try and influence the election and if they have done and/or are doing something similar in other countries.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    At this point we don't even know what is disinformation and what is real. At best, all you can say is that we have two competing narratives and no clear way to separate fact from fiction.

    EDIT: calling it an "election hack" probably isn't correct. There's no evidence that the Russians tampered with ballots, but it seems there's at least a possibility that they would favor Trump over Clinton (for any number of reasons) and may have propagandized us with the intent of swinging opinion. If true, then I'd say Putin just gave us a master class in Psy-ops.
     
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    Does Putin have a reason to want Trump in the White House when Trump has been notably more open to doing business with Russia? Sure. Does that mean it was them that did the hack of the DNC and Podesta emails and gave them to Assange? No way of knowing that. Do the Russians (and just about every major government, including US) try to influence political outcomes in other countries from time to time? Sure. I don't see that as particularly significant in pointing the finger at the nasty Bear for this one. I do know that it makes a better narrative in certain political precincts if it was Russia instead of a few pissed off Bernie backers.
     
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    You're absolutely correct on both the "disinformation" and "hack" accounts.
     
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    Ann Coulter wrote at least one book. She's an expert.
     

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