When does the "Needle Mover" happen?

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  1. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    It's 4.2mm not 42. So that's 0.165 inches

    What was this thread about before those guys started joking about dick size?
     
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    I don't know, but blame @BLAZINGGIANTS He is the one who is holding everyone in suspense.

    I think everyone is bored holed up in their cave waiting for the Blazer game to start. Things tend to run amuck or get derailed rather quickly during these times, lol.
     
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    When does a needle moving trade happen.

    simple. It doesn't.

    PA and NO are not splitting Dame and CJ for at least another year. Nobody else on the roster is worthy of gaining a needle mover in return unless we package all our picks to the right team.
    With PA's love of the draft and how well NO is at the draft, I think they value the picks more than most other teams.


    I hate to say it folks, but the best thing for the team in the long run is to probably use our picks. Think long term. It keeps us cap flexible for the long term.

    The key thing we need is better big man development. NO needs to force Terry into hiring an elite defensive specialist to help the guards and a big man specialist to work with the young bigs.


    SO @Rastapopoulos thread about the lottery, it came to be by a few people that the Spurs are the role model because of a combination of drafting/scouting and development.
    We have the drafting down. We need the development.

    If we trade our picks for a superstar now, we are living the life of the cap threshold long term with little flexibility it it doesn't work out.
    As pointed out by @TBpup NO is not great at top tier trades.


    I know I have posted many times about going the trade route, but lets be real. PA and NO are not breaking up Dame and CJ until at the minimum...the end of next season. They are going to give this experiment the full time it would require to be able to work. But if they do this, I think we should go the draft way, rather than a vet way. Let's trade up for josh Jackson, play him at the three, which in the long run might be better suited for him, and just use the Bulls philosophy of Center by committee, which is almost where we are at right now. If we cna somehow nail a guy like Noel without giving up anything but bench role players, then another plus. but if we are keeping Dame and CJ together, I think the best thing to do would be to trade up to nail us a supreme young guy who will be on a rookie contract so that we can have more money to build around the three of Dame/CJ/Jackson
     
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  4. TBpup

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    I agree of Paul's love of the Draft but NeO has traded away so many Blazer picks. There was a stretch where they didn't have a 2nd round pic for something like 4-5 years until they got some back recently. No picks at all in 2014, (Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton trades) traded away the 2015 1st round pick for Plumlee, and traded away the 2016 pick for Arron Afflalo, again having no picks until they purchased one.

    Portland had no 2nd round pick in 2014, 2015, 2016, and don't have on in 2017 and 2018....much of which is Olshey's doing.

    Of course Paul has shown he is willing to buy a pick but it's tough to find 'diamonds in the rough' when you don't even have a selection.
     
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    Bored and holed up? That doesn't apply to me. But you guys certainly seem to have spent your entire day here. Have you no lives? I don't think HCP's thread asking how you guys have so much time to be here was an honest question. I think he was secretly calling you out and astonished you guys spent so much time on S2. You guys are basement-dwelling nerds.

    FAMS. :cheers:
     
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    I think RoLo and Mo Williams were needle movers. They took our team from 33 wins to 54 wins and a second round appearances. Aminu and Plumlee were semi-needle movers since they joined a team that was supposed to be awful and ended up making second round. Just think how bad we would've been last year without those guys.
     
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    And Evan Turner was a needle-mover, taking a team that ended up making the second round and turning them into the awful team predicted the year before.
     
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    We were 15-24 last year. This year, we are 16-23. Consider the needle moved. Playoff performance is yet to be determined but if both Durant and Curry go out with injuries...
     
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    No, I'm pretty sure the Blazers played 82 regular season games last year and then some playoff games.
     
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    Nets Waived Anthony Bennett.
     
  11. TBpup

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    The opportunity to get a former high pick on the cheap. NeO must be salivating! :breakdance:
     
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    Bennett is a mixed bag. As a former 1st pick in the draft, he's clearly been a huge disappointment.

    He loves to shoot the 3, but he's just a career .261 shooter. That drags down his overall FG%. The kid seems to be a better shooter than his numbers indicate.

    His 14.9 PER is from a small sample set. Per 36, he's 15.7/10.6/1.6 with .7 steals and only .4 blocks.

    His contract is a shade over $1M. Someone is going to take a gamble on him.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    See Robinson, Thomas.....
     
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    Or Vonleh, Noah...
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I know.

    But TRob is halfway decent. Just not worthy of his draft selection.

    His defense is good. Per 36, he's 12.5/15.2/1.8 with 1.7 steals and .9 blocks. He's hitting .511 (TS% .511, too) of his shots. All those stats, and DRtg and PER, too, are better than Ed Davis this year.
     

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