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Knowing that he could have signed in PDX six months ago, I would have a hard time giving up a useful asset for him now. I would do something along Evan + Vonleh + a bucket of picks. Works in the Trade Machine but puts us in the Luxury Tax. But I think Miami could do way better than that.

 

I don't understand the relevance of this. Anyone could have chosen to sign in Portland--he didn't choose to, so trade is the only way to get Whiteside.

 

Sure. But he said on the record that Portland was his option #2. I just can't ignore it.

 

that means nothing to the organization trading him.

 

Signing him six months ago would have essentially been a "trade" as well. We would have had to renounce some of our free agents. With that said, if it costs us CJ, it would definitely sting.

 

I wouldn't trade CJ for Whiteside. Everyone else but he and Dame are on the table, however.

 

Then you're not getting him.

 

Plums, Crabbe and two 1st round picks isn't terrible. They could still do better however.

 

Yep! as far as 'assets' go we got more ass than ets

 

Ignore what? He signed with his home club, good for him.

Are you saying you wouldn't trade for him now because he hurt your feelings, or is there some other non-obvious reason I'm not seeing?

 

That's my point. We could have had Dame-CJ-HW. And 6 months later we must trade CJ to get him? Don't want that.

 

Just answered the main point for me. There's no "feeling hurt".

 

he is de-valuing him because he thought about coming here as a FA

 

Please...

Just some logic here. I you can get him without giving up your 2nd best player or get him 6 months later with giving your 2nd best player do you do it easily? I don't.

 

the point is he didn't
and that wont come into account in any way for the heat as an organization aside from them knowing he will agree to some sort of trade to come here.

 

But you can't get him without giving up your second best player (or equivalent assets). That's what you don't seem to be grasping here. You couldn't six months ago (because he chose Miami) and you can't now.

What you're really saying is, "The fantasy situation of him choosing to sign with us in the off-season is way better than the real-life situation of us trading for him now, so I don't want to trade for him now." That's not called logic.

 

The past has no bearing on the present. Maybe there's a parallel universe where he signed with the Blazers, but it's not this one.

The Blazers have a roster problem in the frontcourt and limited ways to remedy it in a meaningful way. If CJ and Damian weren't defensive sieves and the team was more successful then we wouldn't even be having this discussion. But the lack of success and the glaring roster problems demand attention.

So sure, it would have been far preferable for Whiteside to come here last summer, but that is irrelevant now. We only have what "is" and how to remedy it moving forward. A CJ for Whiteside trade is about as fair a deal as I can imagine -- a win-win for both trading partners.

 

Blazers are hot for Tyson Chandler not Whiteside.

 

That's fine. I'm not as high on Whiteside being our final piece as others. Think we can replicate his skills fairly easily over the next few seasons.

 

At this point all we can hope for is that SAC and DEN make a run in the 2nd half and we can get a nice pick. Then a sign and trade becomes enticing for one of those UFA's coming up or, just a trade in the offseason. We cant make a trade with how we are playing this year we're like the desperate guy at the bar and its closing time (everyone knows what were after). What we settle for now we are not going to like in the morning.

So we must suffer and endure