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  1. Trackjack

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    I see Neil not making any moves until draft time. If does it be minor for 2nd round pick. This draft it very deep even into the 2nd round. I believe we are going the draft way this year.
     
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    Nothing new in that tweet
     
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  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Surely Minnesota would rather have a sharpshooting 2 than a younger version of Pekovic, right?

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    I agree. Those 2 first round picks are valuable. Even though most of the players will take a couple years to really help.
     
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    We'd be lucky to find a center like Nurkic at the end of the first round. He's only 22. I'm giving up that cleveland pick without hesitation
     
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    Im not so sure itll even take that long. At this point most of our top paid guys are playing below replacement level so rookie or not almost ANYTHING would help this team immediately.
     
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    I think you are underestimating the jump in competition. If we draft on potential and grab some of these freshmen who are still raw but have a very high ceiling, it may be worth the investment, but they still are a couple of years away from helping us be better. Few of these guys are dominating in college right now. How are they going to get us into the playoffs? They may play but I doubt they will be ready year one. I think Vonleh is the norm these days.
     
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    Im not asking for the moon here just like 13 ppg and 25 solid minutes of defense. I bet there's 5-6 rookies every year that put up numbers like that right? or am I out to lunch? if we had someone doing that reliably now they'd be our third best player that's all Im trying to say.
     
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  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    This decade, there have been precisely 6 rookies who have provided 13+ ppg on 25+ mpg with a Drtg of 105 or lower. Brandon Jennings is the only one of those who wasn't a top 5 pick.

    http://bkref.com/tiny/i45rA
     
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    How bout:

    MIL Gets: Crabbe, Leonard
    POR Gets: Henson, Snell, MIL top 10 2017 1st
    CLE Gets: Dellevedova
    BKN Gets: Shumpert, 2017 CLE 1st

    MIL gets two shooters to put around Giannis,
    We get a defensive C, shed salary, and upgrade CLEs 1st into MILs 1st
    CLE Gets their backup PG
    BKN gets a first for taking Shumperts salary
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    WHAT rookies are you watching?
     
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    Maybe 5-8 ppg and solid defense is more realistic.
     
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    Realistically how good do you think Nurkic would be as a starting center? I like the idea of Nurkic and I wouldn't mind giving them clevelands first for him but I don't think he would be anything but an average starting center, kind of like Pryzbilla was, and i'm not that sure that he would be that much better then Plumlee. I'm not in favor of paying Plumlee the 17+ million he would get this year which is the main reason I wouldnt' mind giving up a first for Nurkic.
     
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    The interesting question to me is: how does the trade market for Plumlee compare with that for Nurkic? Which one is likely in higher demand around the league?
     
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    Its probably Nurkic because any team that wants Plumlee could probably afford to steal him from us this summer with a 100/4 year offer and if they wanted to trade for him they would need to offer that anyways to him. Nurkic still has a cheap two years left.
     
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    Idk I guess just the good ones? like if youre a rookie with all-star ceiling youre usually putting up semi-decent numbers arent you? Im honestly asking.
     
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    This year nobody did it but last year

    KAT
    Deangelo Russel
    Okafor
    Myles Turner
    Devon Booker

    All in that point range

    8 players in double figures
     
    chzbrgr, Jan 24, 2017
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    There's no way Milwaukee is trading a top-ten pick in a great draft for Crabbe and Leonard.

    In general, "our garbage for your awesome asset" trades are never going to work.
     
    Minstrel, Jan 24, 2017
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