Trade Idea How do we get Jimmy Butler

I'm not so sure. Rondo seems like he is tailor made for Stotts' flow offense due to his passing ability. I think Terry would try to fit him in.

 

Apparently both teams lose in this trade, so it seems fair:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jyuef8w

 

I posted this in a different thread a while back. I will repost it here.

I have no idea what it would take to trade for Butler. Begin with an offer consisting of CJ, our 2017 first round pick, Cleveland's 2017 first round pick and go from there.

 

Getting Butler would be a dream come true.

If we could keep both Dame & CJ, I would make the trade taking back anyone they want to send, give them any of our others players they want, and draft picks.

Butler needs guards around him that can shoot to spread the floor for him. That is the problem the Bulls are having, no one for Butler to dish the ball to when he gets doubled. Dame & CJ are the perfect guards for Butler.

I would not trade Dame for Butler. Butler is a top 10-15 player, but he is not a great floor leader. We would still need Dame to run the team.

If we have to trade CJ, we better keep Crabbe as an outlet shooter.

 

Excellent - both teams improve their draft position, which is the only thing worth pursuing for either team at this point in the season! Well done!

 

How about that 1-13 and 3 points from Butler tonight. Just driving down his price so we can trade Meyers straight up for him!

 

Do we really want a cornerstone player who would purposely sandbag a game the way Butler did last night?

 

There is a hurricane size shit storm brewing in Chicago. It involves everyone hating on each other. It involves every player, the coach, owner and front office personnel.

How do you explain the coach benching his best players (Butler and Wade) at the start of the game last night, just because they called out the younger players for not playing hard enough?

It will be interesting to see who will be left standing at the end if this storm. If there is an end, or anyone left. It maybe time for a complete remake of the Bulls, from locker room to front office.

And yes, I want Butler, his game was off last night, but with good reason. The Bulls have zero chemistry.

 

Don't want Butler but I like this thinking. Need to turn a few of our players into one better player. We're too deep with players on the same level

 

Hmm, if Butler and the Bulls are becoming this estranged, maybe the Blazers can acquire him. Not for crap, but maybe just McCollum gets the job done. Butler would be the perfect backcourt partner for Lillard.

 

Wouldn't trade CJ for Butler and I don't want Butler anyway. He isn't nearly as talented as CJ, don't like his game or his personality

 

is it wrong if the only reason I want butler is to ship him to sactown for cousins?

 

Have there been reports on what actually is offered by these teams? We can guess, i'm sure Bostons has to be centered around the Nets pick and the Philly one would be around probably oakfer because Noel doesn't have near the value, not sure what minny would offer.

 

This says Minn. was willing to offer anyone but AW & KAT.
I'm sure that's still the case tbh. But there have been articles wrote saying Chicago wouldn't trade Butler to Minn if AW wasn't in the deal.
Meaning no deal will take place if that's still the position Chicago holds.

http://www.espn.com/nba/draft2016/s...s-push-get-jimmy-butler-chicago-bulls-fizzles

 

Philadelphia's picks are not very valuable if they get Butler this season as this could push them to playoffs. They have been great lately. Nets picks are extremely valuable as they are bound to be bottom 3 team for the next few seasons. Celtics also have much better talent to send back to Chicago - Bradley, Crowder or Johnson are all valuable players on good contracts (Amir is a bit high but Bradley and Crowder are tremendous value). They could even offer them Jaylen Brown and he is better suited to Bulls than Okafor.

Minnesota have Dunn, LaVine who they could offer, a lot of good rotation players like Rubio, Muhammad and Dieng and should have a good pick this season.

IMO Butler is nailed on for Celtics. Then they will go hard for Hayward in free agency, and try to have Thomas-Butler-Hayward-Horford + someone rotation which would easily challenge the East.

 

So, what if Bulls realized this signing up the veterans plan isn't going to work, And so we take all their big contracts. We take Wade, Butler, Rondo and Lopez. Give back Crabbe, Harkless, Plumlee, Vonleh, Aminu, Davis, Napier, Ezeli and of course a couple first round picks, maybe three. So we get to keep Lillard and CJ.

Maybe we could instead keep Vonleh, send Connaughton and Quarterman out to make it work salary-wise; because otherwise we would have only Lopez and Leonard. Bulls could tank the rest of the season.
Hmm, do I even like this trade? Starting: Lillard, Butler, Turner, Vonleh, Lopez. 2nd team CJ, Wade, Leonard, Layman or guys we pick up. Probably keep to a 8 man rotation so guys who deserve it, like CJ, get plenty of minutes. Plenty of point guards, plenty of shooting guards, Butler and Turner can play as small forwards plus Layman. If bigs stay healthy, three is OK, but I would rather pick up someone more savvy and mobile than Leonard and not have him playing much. Rondo would probably have to be released or bought out; I don't think there would be enough minutes for him to keep him from being trouble.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j67upfh

Of course, Philadelphia could absorb three of those guys from Chicago, send back Noel, Okafor, Covington, Gerald Henderson, and expirings of Ilyasova, Rodriguez and Staukas plus draft picks.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zjgue6g