Merged: blazers linked to serge ibaka

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  1. RR7

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    The big issue I have with that:

    Lillard/Napier
    McCollum/Connaughton
    Turner/Harkless
    Ibaka/Aminu/Green
    Plumlee/Davis

    Aminu and green shouldn't see many minutes at the sf position. Moving Crabbe for a pf takes away his 25ish minutes and ability to play 2/3, and replaces it with 2 pfs. Ibaka could definitely see time at c. But the minute breakdown at the guard position gets ugly, IMO.
    But, I'm also not all that interested in moving Crabbe, personally.
     
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    Funny how RealGM still has Marcelo Nicola as trade option for the Blazers. He's 45 years old and the Blazers aquired his draft rights in 1995. He's actually coaching now.
     
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    We should have Denny go explain to them what a great contract it is and how it's a wonderful asset.
     
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    Another thing to look at, in regards to him leaving for another team, who will have both the cap space and the need? Not nearly as many teams this year with space as last year, at least in terms of realistic space. Everyone assumes an immediate max offer for him, but seems unlikely to come from anyone.
     
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    Well trading for Ibaka would just be step one. I still believe one of Aminu/Harkless should be moved. I don't want to trade Crabbe either but what else would Orlando want? Layman? Ideally they'd just take that Cleveland pick + Davis and Ezeli, but that'd be too amazing for us.
     
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    Next season, Orlando's total salaries including cap holds, is $127+ million. Right around the luxury tax threshold. They do not want to take back a lot of salary for Ibaka.
     
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    Cleveland first, Davis, and Ezeli would give Orlando a first rounder in a good draft and save them money. Hmm. Maybe it's not that crazy. I'm just thinking about what other teams could/would offer for him. I would also throw in another heavily protected first if need be.
     
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    Why do they think that? If so, he wouldn't return to Portland, either. Do NOT give up an Afflalo-like pick for this rental.

    With the 2nd-highest payroll in the NBA, I thought the goal of our trades is to reduce our payroll, not the other team's. Many posters here are shooting for #1.
     
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    Reducing payroll shouldn't be the focus. Better allocating the money should be.
     
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    I don't really see how a trade with Porland makes sense for Orlando if they're not getting Portland's first rounder.
    Outside of that Portland doesn't really have much value to offer for Ibaka, if you take into account Orlando's roster.
    Turner/Harkless/Crabbe/Davis/Aminu/Vonleh
    Fournier/Gordon/Meeks/BB/Green
    Though Orlando has been known to be a mess in their FO.

    Makes perfect sense for Portland though. Ibaka can do more than just catch lobs offensively, and he's still a pretty good help defender.
    Shame if Portland were to acquire him he'd be in LA in 17-18.
     
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    This trade properly not going to happen I be suprise even any trade happens until draft time.
     
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    As for Ibaka, I like him now and maybe next year or so but he is declining in his defensive impact IMO. I'm not sure I'd want to be on the hook for the size of contract he will want. Then if you don't pay him, you have lost him as well as the players it took to get him. Skeptical...
     
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    I don't think there's anything wrong with Ibaka and his defense. He plays defense well when the team has a coherent defensive scheme.

    The key issue with getting him is if he'll stay. I think he won't.

    For those of you who think the Afflalo deal was a bad one, this is exactly the same situation. We trade young players who could/will break out after the trade, plus picks, for a player who bolts.
     
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    yep, besides other stuff this is the number one reason, give up an asset (pick) in a meaningless season and then he leaves would be utter stupidity
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zmrktvk

    Some in Toronto would jump on this trade in a heartbeat.
    Especially with Joseph+powell+carrol on the roster.
     
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    I'm okay with Ibaka.... but it can't be the only trade.
     
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    For those who think I'm still a Bulls fan...

    I've read this forum for years and you guys sold me on the team. I've seen how management works and that sold me, too. I really like the players, and I believe in the rebuilding scheme. It's a radical change to see an owner who wants to win and management that makes (IMO) the right moves available to them.

    I watched as many as 82 Bulls games a season on NBALP and TV since the Jordan dynasty years. The past two seasons, maybe 2 or 3 Bulls games when they were on at a bar where I had dinner.

    I've been watching the Blazers games, instead.
     
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    I agree that he's a risk to only be a rental for a few months. I think most teams will see it that way and will make their offers accordingly. He'd be a good fit for the Blazers. IMO, a package of Meyers and the Cleveland pick would be worth the shot to see what he can do for the Blazers and to have the use of his Bird rights to attempt to re-sign him.
     
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