Politics Thank you white people for black history month

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  1. dviss1

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    It could all be so simple but some would rather make it hard - Lauren Hill
     
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    His post was yelling

    Stop hitting me!

    Loud enough so mom could hear and come do something about it.
     
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    You must simply have no clue of what the prison industrial complex does with prison workers. Do some research and then talk.
     
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    You see how I didn't cry about the word fool (which black people almost always use as a term of endearment)? It's because you used it in context. :cheers:
     
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    The n word is used as a term of endearment in the black community but if it is used here by any person regardless of color or intent it will get deleted.

    I have no interest in applying a race intention exception to a very simple personal insult rule.
     
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    When your neighborhoods are more heavily policed you will find more crime. Furthermore, with broken windows policing, you actually create more Felons.

    There's a reason why black people are four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana than white people even though we smoke and possess it at about the same clip. Why??

    Figure out why.

    Care about why.

    There's a few in here who truly don't give a shit (you know who you are).

    Edit: True story: My cousin (obviously black) is a Pendleton police officer. He let a white kid walk with over 2 ounces of MJ.

    That's the MAIN reason why I'm an advocate for marijuana decriminalization. So it can now go from black people getting arrested for it, to white people making money off of it... I'd rather have the latter...

    That's my stage moniker. You been doing some vetting? :huh:
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I will agree about the drug charge shit, and I also agree MJ should be legal everywhere. I also think, and this is my own opinion, that the drug is more common with the black community, thus could contribute to the higher arrest rates. Perhaps that is because of the image, pattern, emulation of the hip hop culture?? I do not know. If we were to take drug charges out of the crime statistics, it would be interesting to see where everything lies.

    No vetting, I always cap your name for some reason, LOL my bad.
     
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    Yeah, Pence is nearly as tone deaf as Trump.

    Here is Frederick Douglass' letter to his former owner. I'm sure Trump never read it as it is long and has a lot of big words:
    http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/02/i-am-your-fellow-man-but-not-your-slave.html

    Here is Douglass on what the 4th of July means to slaves. I remember reading this in high school and getting scolded in class for my unpatriotic views.http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/douglassjuly4.html
     
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    These are hilarious. Sorry, not on Twitter and don't know the trick for properly copying tweets.

    1. Jack Kimble ‏@RepJackKimble 18h18 hours ago

      Please join me in honoring all those great white fighters who fought Joe Louis so he could be heavyweight champion #PenceBlackHistory



    2. [​IMG]Erin Julia ‏@derptyderp 18h18 hours ago
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      For #BlackHistoryMonth[​IMG] let's all recognize Melania Trump for her performance of Michelle Obama's speech #PenceBlackHistory




    3. [​IMG]Researchjunkie ‏@lulu4u2nv 18h18 hours ago
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      In honor of black history month, we recognize the Kardashians, for their special contributions to the lives of black men #PenceBlackHistory



     
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    I wonder if Mike Pence is going to do one of these tweets a day, like some sort of Advent Calendar.
     
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    I once ate at McDonalds when I went to Cabo. It was the same as the McDonalds here, which I found disappointing.
     
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    Like what even is this
     
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    im pretty sure i know exactly how it works :biglaugh:
     
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    You just summed up a microcosm in our country. This happens FAR too often and people need to wake up. The research is easy to find of you care enough to look.

    First, stop applying your opinion to this. That simply needs to stop. Opinions aren't facts.

    Second, like... Get some black friends... Really... Your posts wreaks of an opinion formed by the media's portrayal of us. There's so much amazing Blackness out there that no one ever gets to see because many would rather see us shuck and Jive and sing about sex.

    Take a look. Whites 18-25 use it more.

    The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts

    June 4, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    As you're probably aware, black Americans are arrested for marijuana possession far more frequently than whites. You may also know that there's not much evidence that black people consume marijuana with greater regularity than whites do.

    But the extent of the disparity between the rate of arrest and the rate of use for white and black Americans may surprise you. The ACLU has an absurdly comprehensive new report tracking marijuana possession arrests for blacks and whites at the national, state and county level. Sure enough, they find that black and white people use marijuana at roughly the same rates:

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    In at least one year, the white usage rate was higher. The others, the black usage rate was higher, but in no year were results for the two races that different. For young people ages 18-25, the rates of use are higher for whites:

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    And more blacks say they've never used marijuana:

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    Of course, this doesn't translate to roughly equal arrest rates. Not even close:

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    And this is a uniform phenomenon. It's not that some states treat the races equally and others treat them really unequally. Only in Hawaii are the rates even close to equal, and that's biased by the fact that blacks make up only 1.6 percent of the population. In the state with the second-lowest disparity, Alaska, blacks are 1.6 times more likely to be arrested. In the state with the biggest, Iowa, blacks are 8.34 times more likely to be arrested. D.C. has the second biggest; in the District, blacks are 8.05 times more likely to be arrested.

    Similarly, the vast majority of counties arrest blacks at a higher rate than whites, with some having a disparity of greater than 10 to 1:

    And this includes a lot of urban areas that are highly populated and liberal-leaning. Cook County, Illinois, which includes Chicago, has one of the largest disparities of any county. So does New York County (Manhattan) and Kings County, N.Y. (Brooklyn):

    How important is this? Well, while making up a quite small share of our prison population, marijuana possession charges make up nearly half of total drug arrests:

    Obviously, being arrested without going to jail is a lot better than getting arrested and going to jail. But it's still a major nuisance, leading to fines, long hours of community service and thousands of dollars in legal fees.

    The report does suggest that legal reforms, in particular decriminalization, is effective at reducing overall arrest rates. Massachusetts decriminalized the possession of small amounts of marijuana in 2009, and arrests dropped an enormous amount:

    But interestingly, the racial disparity in arrests did not fall at all:

    In 2008, the black arrest rate in Massachusetts was 3.41 times the white arrest rate. In 2009, it was 5.4 times the white arrest rate. Now, the importance of the disparity diminishes when overall arrests are falling that dramatically, and there's no reason to think that decriminalization caused the disparity to increase; in 2010, it fell back down to 3.81.

    But it's hard to make the case that decriminalization made enforcement more equitable. Indeed, as Stanford med school Professor Keith Humphreys notes, the states that have legalized or decriminalized marijuana to date all have smaller-than-average black populations. That suggests that whatever benefits casual marijuana users have received from those policies have mainly accrued to white smokers.
     
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    Like probably the best fucking nasty McDonald's thing on Earth. If you ever see a Milka bar. Buy it.
     
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    I think those graphs need to be put into perspective. Like, for instance, per population percentages. Not just simple numbers comparisons, because we all know blacks make up roughly 13% of the population. Meaning, if they are THAT close to the whites, that means the population as a whole is doing it a lot more, extrapolate that data out and we'd have a big numbers difference. Except obviously for the arrest rates; which obviously you have your opinions on and others have theirs.


    Relax please. Stop making assumptions and trying to steer this into a fight.
     
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    You use a lot of opinion make assumptions about others. That's problem. That argument makes my point. The arrest numbers should be significantly lower. Then you use the strawman argument:

    "that means the population as a whole is doing it a lot more, extrapolate that data out and we'd have a big numbers difference."

    *cough* bullshit *cough* opinion...

    Using opinion as fact will make it harder for blacks and whites to relate. - Damany Iqwé

    Again you use a lot of opinion to make assumptions about others.

    It's already been a fight. You voted for Trump. I plan on fighting him tooth and nail. You must support the forced removal of people from their land by eminent domain so a corporation can run an oil pipeline over their aquifer... I don't.
     
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    OK.
     
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    Jesus please us, blue. Can you read? The graphs clearly show rate. By definition, percentage.

    dviss, in the brief gap between high school and college, I visited my favorite cousin, at that time he lived about 40 miles away. We all got stoned and were driving around, stopped by cop because, he explained, driver going 45 in 25 mile zone and taillight out. Legit stop. Also, three boys and one girl in car looked odd. The boys all local, me not. I pointed to my cousin, said I'm visiting my cousin, he got that "tell me more funny stories" look. We had more pot in paper bag under back seat. And the cops saw it. And ignored it.

    We were white middle class college bound kids whose parents would blow a gasket but also would get us good lawyers. We weren't worth it. The cop said slow down, get light fixed, driver yessir'ed about a million times. We were scared shitless but nothing more.

    I don't have to ask you, would it have been different if were were urban black kids?
     
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