So the only issue is that you two draw the line in different places and 3-5 are debatable. This draft you may be right, but we likely won't know for a few years. I think the general point was a single high pick has more value than a bunch of lower picks. If Portland kept all their picks and somehow lucked into the top two then it would open up a lot more doors.
Given how few picks from 21-30 range amount to much in NBA, two late first round picks are not that valuable. There is a chance you get a great talent but for every Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler you have 40 players you won't even remember 5 years after the draft. I would still rather keep them than trade them for someone useless or use them to dump salaries, if only because good scouting can get you a Jokic there. In a package for someone good you may consider this. Realistically our most valuable pick is our pick and teams trading for it will know that the better player we get, the less valuable that pick is. Right now it's 9-12 range in all likelihood but with Paul George or Jimmy Butler maybe it becomes 16-18. The closer to the draft we are, the more value this pick could have. To get true value for it we might tank and revisit this idea in 3 months but we also need to have a plan for the draft because those opportunities to trade may never come. Last year all Utah got for a lottery pick was George Hill which is nothing special.
Usually true, but this year it's different. One of the deepest classes in years. You'll see guys that would normally go in the lottery there in the 20s. Mix that in with the cap spike and the value of cheap talent like that skyrockets
Yeah but if that's the case, isn't it better to keep the picks? With three shots we might hit a Giannis or a Draymond there. It's better to shoot three times than once.
I dont think there's a wrong way to attack here. I will say this though; draft picks take years to develop. The odds you'll add instant impact is pretty low. I see our window with Dame and CJ as the next four or so years. If we can add a star like Butler, whose age and contract is similar to those two, you almost have to do it.
Yes, I think that if Portland is going after Butler or George that it is both in their interest and in Chciago/Indiana interest to wait until the draft positions are settled. Portland might make a small trade to try to pick up a younger player or another draft pick before then, but I can't really think of anything feasible unless it involves Crabbe and that may be easier also if they wait.. I think Indiana probably would like Crabbe because Bird wouldn't be into a complete rebuild, in fact he already has Turner who he wants to build around. Chicago would do a complete rebuild and would have no interest in Crabbe.
OK SO he likes dame's game he also wants to play on a winning team at this point this team isn't showing that we are much better than his current team so it would come down to, does he see the blazers as a team that would make that leap with him coming here?
Wrong question at the wrong time. The first question is what would you have to give the Pacers to pry him loose. Assuming you can do that, then you have to ask, after a year of playing in Portland, would he likely stay? If you get him to Portland, playing with Dame and CJ, with a decent center (Nurckic), I think that team could be quite good and could convince him to stay. But, the first question is the problem right now.
What I'd try to do: Trade 4 picks, Harkless, Ezeli, and any filler it takes for George or Butler. Those picks would be our 3 this year (with ours being lottery protected, with next years being top 10 protected). This means we'd probably still keep our pick, and trade a pick next year around 20. The other being our 2019 pick, top 10 protected. If something goes wrong (such as PG not resigning with us after next year), then we trade one of Dame/CJ for a high 2019 pick, and tank so we keep our 2019 1st. We'd still have our top 10 2019 first, have another extremely high pick for the Lillard or McCollum trade. We also be more likely able to trade Crabbe and Turner. So we'd reset with 3 picks, and have some cap space to try to do some things or take salary for extra picks, etc. We'd still have whatever became of Nurkic, Vonleh, and Layman. Basically, it's a risky move, but minimizing the risk as much as possible to be able to trade 4 draft picks while still not mortgaging away the future should things go wrong.
I agree so much with this, and was the way I interpreted it. Blazers could realistically get...Lopez, Milsap, Taj Gibson...etc. with their picks. Not they can get anyone, and then we get 10 pages on Butler and George. Our pick is 10, but maybe not with George on board. So it's 3 potentially non-lotto picks? Very unlikely. Especially with Boston sitting on Brooklyn picks and recent lotto pick. Our targets, not anyone in the league available.
I believe Neil going to wait and see approach. He waiting to see how the team going to play with Nurk in the lineup. Nurk need to play at least 28 to 32 minutes per game so the team can be evaluated the rest of the season. Then we will evaluate what to do in the off season.
This is a prime opportunity for Portland to balance out some of their issues by trading either Lillard or CJ for Butler/George. I mean, I like Damian and CJ, but just think for a second. If we had Lillard and Butler as our starters, would you trade Butler for CJ? If CJ were our starting PG and George our starting 3, would you trade George for Lillard to pair CJ and Dame in the back court?
