Lillard makes for an intriguing trade asset--discuss

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    What about if Middleton and Brogdon were also involved?
     
  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    The Bucks have a better record than Portland, with arguably a worse roster.

    Also, I would not call 23/6/9 with a 26 PER on good efficiency a "role player". He's also 4 years younger than Lillard. I don't think there is any debate that Giannis > Lillard, both in value and as a player.
     
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  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    So a guy who has had 2 ACL surgeries on the same knee before the age of 22, coming up for a max extension, a guy who is coming off a torn hamstring injury that just sidelined him for half a year, and a rookie backup PG.

    That is the package that will make us trade Dame on the first year of his extremely reasonable contract with 0 external pressure to move him?

    You guys seriously considering this bullshit?
     
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    chzbrgr Well-Known Member

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    Parker, Middleton, Brogdon is a pretty good haul for Dame IMO not in any way saying itll happen but its a decent deal
     
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    They were actually looking good this year but their form dipped. They were missing Middleton badly and had to patch their backcourt because they lack a good point guard and Brogdon has been their best comboguard - he is a rookie that was taken as a 2nd rounder. With Middleton in that line up they would have been 4-5 wins better off for sure and over .500.

    Then Parker got injured at exactly the same point Middleton came back (think it was the exact same game, first game back from injury for Middleton and Parker gets hurt).

    He doesn't really have great personnel to play with. Monroe is inept defensively, Henson is average, Dellavedova is one of the weakest starting point guards in the league, Teletovic and Beasley are average rotation players, Brogdon and Maker are just rookies even if talented. It's all about him and Parker and he's been putting up insane numbers on both ends of the court.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    smh, i give up.

    Dudes, unless Dame is asking for a trade, you don't trade him for anything less than a definitive star on a long term deal. MIL has one of those players and he's clearly not being moved. They're not even an option.
     
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    Reep Well-Known Member

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    But don't forget Parker is also an undersized PF who doesn't rebound well and is a below average defender. What isn't to like about that?
     
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    Or you could frame it as, a 20 ppg scoring PF, a 20 ppg scoring 6'8" wing, and a 6'5" PG, the latter two of which are also excellent defensive players.

    The fact that Parker/Middleton have suffered injuries are the only reason that Milwaukee might theoretically consider such a deal.

    Not saying that I'd necessarily want to do the deal either, but I think it's the kind of gamble that small market teams need to consider.
     
  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    The idea that Jabari Parker has any sort of value above being a throw in is baffling to me.

    It was a bogus rumor from a bogus Marc Stein account, and Frank Isola is just sleazy enough to run with it. smh


     
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    This is just willfully ignorant. One is an all-star elite 2-way player one is not. Giannis is on track to be a 10x time all-star don't play yourself.

    Love dame but when are his "leadership skills" going to lead to more wins or even just a team that gives consistent effort on a nightly basis? The things leadership contributes to are the things as a fan base we've been bitching about all year. Not to mention the fact the Bucks have a better record with their second best player on the shelf all year, and their third best done for the next year now. (poor Jabari that kid is a really good player my heart goes out to him)
     
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    It's as if last year didn't even happen.

    Speaking of willful ignorance...
     
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    you gotta reading comprehension issue? This isnt real you know that right? Middleton hasnt played all year so Ill just assume you dont remember how good he is. But as far as hypothetical trades go this one wasnt bad.
     
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    you mean 44 wins? soccer moms think theyre kids are all messi's and Ronaldo's
     
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    You called it a good haul.

    It isn't.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Lol what? Injury or not Parker has got to have more value than a mere throw in...
     
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    chzbrgr Well-Known Member

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    you belong on T_D my man places where "pretty good" and "decent" mean "GREAT!" and "DO IT NOW!" lol but by all means get your panties in a bunch over a hypothetical trade scenario.
     
  17. illmatic99

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    Perhaps a bit hyperbolic, but I certainly don't think he can be the main cog in a deal that lands Dame freakin Lillard.
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    If Parker wasn't so injury prone we would possibly have a good trade here, but with the team's injury history it's a hard sell.
     
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    In terms of Parker's value, has any NBA star come back from two ACL repairs on the same leg?
     
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    All I am doing is asking the question. Similar question I asked about for all the other Milwaukee Bucks we have fallen in love with in the last few years.

    I acknowledged he would be an awesome role player, but how many 10x allstars, who are guards/wings, shoot 27% from 3pt range these days?

    Don't get me wrong I would love to have him on our team, but in today's NBA if you can't shoot from deep at a high level, you will struggle to become a super star.
     
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