OT Foreign Tourism slump projected

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/27/trumps-travel-ban-is-already-affecting-u

     
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    Reported today San Francisco already seeing slump. Tourism is very big in SF with hotels, restaurants, transportation and shopping normally drawing people from everywhere. But they are afraid to come to the U.S.
     
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    #THANKSTRUMP Jeeeeeeeeeeeze!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    The other thing that's going to have a huge impact is foreign students now are looking to go to Canada, Australia or Singapore for college and thinking paying more tuition to study in the US is high risk and young students are not comfortable with the political climate. Telling the world to fuck off is not going to end well for the economy and high school kids here are not going to like picking lettuce in the valley as a summer job or sewing fire and rescue gear at the local factory.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Ill-conceived, idiotic policies, executed poorly have consequences

    Look on the bright side, Russians looking for flights to the U.S. ticked up 88%!!!
     
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    Most foreign students are rich as fuck Indonesian or Indians still?

    You have to have lots of money to be a foreign students and most want to be in America jack!!!!
     
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    Go to any college campus....Asian students have family banking support systems....the family is the student loan...very common..something more Americans should do to get their kids a good education. I went up to see my son at OSU every week for 4 years...there are a lot of foreign students there...I'd say a majority...and now that's going to change
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    lol, love all the white knights 'liking' your comment, as expected.

    Hey I guess if you want no country, open borders and a globalist view on the world you can move to Sweden. I hear it's nice, in fact they just had a new grenade attack yesterday in Malmo. Although I hear Stockholm is better. Or try Paris.... Hell go live in southern Cali.

    The only thing that has consequences is following the current Democratic viewpoint of turning the USA into a globalist shit hole. Luckily, it's not going to happen with the current regime and movement of the people.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I have a libertarian point of view. Free movement of people and capital ... ya know: "freedom"
     
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    A...libertarian who isn't a rebranded Republican? In America?

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    getting branded once sounds painful...can't imagine them doing it twice
     
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    This is great for Americans in general, and fantastic for rural Americans.

    Tourism has been on a steady increase here in Beautiful Central Oregon each of the last 2-3 years mostly due to Americans touring nationally rather than risk their lives overseas or waste their time being hassled and demeaned by airport security. We still get plenty of foreign tourists, mostly from Germany and Canada, and that will certainly continue.

    An added plus is that it is primarily sanctuary cities that will suffer.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    mostly little "l" not necessarily big "L" (even though I am a registered Libertarian)
     
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    Sure, I get you. but....

    You have that and you have no country and you have no freedom, because secular religious peoples will start enacting their own "law" and then we will have to basically start all over again trying to carve out a nation of what you want and call 'freedom' from the others and their laws of the land.. this is exactly what is happening in Paris and Germany where Islamic peoples are setting up Shariah law areas and badgering people who come into their 'land'.
     
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    What are "secular religious people?" I've never encountered one of those before.

    I'm not saying that countries don't have a right to screen out criminals and people fundamentally opposed to secular liberalism, but the ham-fisted way Bannon chose to roll out the travel ban and Bannon's ethno-nationalism are fundamentally un-American; these measures appear to validate radical Islamic propaganda that the West hates all Muslims and makes for a great recruiting tool. If you spent any time listening to Muslim reformers like Maajid Nawaz or Ayaan Hirsi Ali (and others) you'd realize that more than ever the Islamic moderates need allies in their fight to reform Islam from within -- the only way this endless cycle of terrorism and violence is going to end.

    The No Religious Tests clause of Article VI of the Constitution is (supposedly?) a bedrock principle this country was founded on. The original intent might have been to remove the requirement to be a protestant Christian when holding office, but it stands to reason it has always been applied to other areas, like immigration (else we never would have allowed in so many Roman Catholic Irish, Poles, Italians and other people).

    I'm not arguing for unfettered acceptance of all refugees and immigrants, because there are practical limitations and not everyone trying to come here has good intentions, but there has to be a middle ground and there needs to be some sort of process grounded in the principles of liberalism (the true sense of the word, not the bastardized version which mislabels progressives as "liberals") not a process grounded in cowardice and fear.
     
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    I will be down there with the MarAzul next month, make things a little better.:cool2:
     
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    Excellent, comrade. We can use every available ship to smuggle in immigrants looking for a new start on life. Enjoy the restaurants and the sights while you're here.
     
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