It takes one good move out of every four.

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    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Glass half empty i guess is what you are saying. The fact is not every move is going to work out. The title of the thread speaks of 1 out of 4. If he keeps that pace this team is probably in good hands. If he gets lucky and gets a couple good moves in a row they contend. Remember he is also sitting with the leagues youngest roster and many already have playoff experience. The cap is rising and they are not yet in the luxury tax. They have 3 picks this year to work with and they now have 3 very good position players.
    That is Glass Half Full!
     
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    @kjironman1 ...never implied half empty or full at all. In fact, gave credit at the end about making the best of the situation he created. Just stated what the situation was. Never get too high or too low without examining how one got there.
     
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    I disagree with the idea that we traded Plumlee because of our contract situation. Had we not extended Meyers, Harkless, Crabbe, and signed Turner, I still think we trade Plumlee for Nurkic and a pick 10 times out of 10.

    Plumlee is about to get paid starter money. I expect him to make at least what Mozgov is making, and while I really like Plumlee, I never saw him as a long term option as the starter. He would make a great backup, but he isn't going to be making backup money. I would have happily given him the money that we gave Meyers, but I don't think that was an option.

    We have been discussing this topic since last summer. Plumlee had to go. It was already a known fact.
     
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    Exactly! They knew Plumlee was too small we all have seen it. Very few did not call for a true center.
     
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    I think one factor that gets ignored is Olshey expected Ezeli to play this season and that was a huge setback from the start....and Ed was playing gimpy as well...he did a commendable job shoring up the frontcourt at the deadline but I think we'd have been a good team with a healthy Ezeli and Ed Davis in the lineup from the start.....that was the X factor....now I think we're back on track again. Plumlee was a rental or we'd have extended him instead of Meyers
     
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    That's the way i look at it also. Plumlee was always simply an asset. When they got him it was unexpected from the start. Olshey even said he couldn't pass up the chance to gain an asset.
     
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    Not a knock on ya. That is just the way i read it. I am a bit more enthusiastic at this point. Been pretty bleak up to this point of the season.
     
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    Our only true big men are Nurkic, Meyers, and Vonleh. We must pick up another big man from G League just in case.
     
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    Yeah. I'd like to see them pick up a banger in the draft but what we have now will have to hold till then. I just don't see Festus ever working out for this team.
     
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    Nice!
     
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    So honestly is there any more questions about Olshey making a good deal on that trade?
    I think not.
     
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    I don't think people ever questioned this trade, really... I mean, a first round pick and a player who did kind of prove himself in his rookie year... we were just happy he got something for Plums.

    It's the fact that now we got Nurk AND the 1st round pick... It's insane.
     
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    I don't think anyone questioned the deal. I just think most people, including our GM, rated the assets coming back in the wrong order.
     
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    As was pointed out in another thread. One GM is going to get extended and one might be looking for a job after that trade.
     
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    Speaking of extensions, when can we get Nurkic locked in long term?
     
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    Technically, we could extend him this offseason just like we did with CJ this past summer.
     
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    I think our concept of "Bad Moves" aren't really that bad anyway. Sure sometimes it's easy to go hindsight on deals like the Afflolo trade, but reality at the time... Same thing with this disaster of Meyers' contract, was it really a disaster or are we magnifying it a bit because the shock of overall salary jumps. Based on the salary jumps, Meyers is making the equivalent of $6.8mil based on last years cap.

    Olshey has been successful enough that people have to turn to things that were rumored to not have happened (EG Parsons offer) to use to criticize the work he has done. But still if you look at the time at which he supposedly pursued these guys, it's not like at the time they were bad to pursue, it's in the wake that they fell off. So yes he got lucky by dodging a bullet, but hindsight isn't always a fair measuring stick. Same thing with Hibbert.
     
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