FINDING A PF: Number 1 offseason priority

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Going to the trade route - I'm still in favor of cashing in our picks for this pitbull:

     
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    I don't think Randle can fit very well in our system. We need someone that can shoot the ball.
     
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    GDiama Well-Known Member

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    I checked the previous page and I saw the name of KOQ popping up? What does he have to do with our PF of the future? He is not even playing any PF...the furthest from the basket he goes is the ft line. We need spacing, not another type of Ed Davis PF.
     
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    Not if we care about a championship. Someone who CAN step out to hit an occasional shot is fine, but we need a tough defensive stopper who can bang and rebound
     
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    Then still Randle is not our man :cool2: Nowhere near a good defender.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Agree
     
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    One of the better, underappreciated bigs in the League is Kelly Olynyk.
    Yeah, I know some here don't think highly of him (or of TRob who's another player I think can fit this role) but his defense is much better than people give him credit for, he's an extremely smart basketball player and I liked him for some time
     
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    he's an RFA I believe which puts him out of reach unless we trade
     
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  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I said he would be great backing up both the 4 and the 5 (which we need), and could be a spot starter at the 4 if we take our PF of the future in the draft. Or do you really think some 19 or 20 years old kid is going to come in and start from day 1?

    He's WAY better and bigger than Ed Davis. As I said, he'd be a combination of what Ed Davis was last season and what Festus Ezeli was supposed to be this season. We need more size and we need more toughness. O'Quinn would give us both.

    BNM
     
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    While I agree that he is better than this year's Davis-who was really garbage this year, I don't think he is much better than last year's Davis which still isn't really enough. There are many great per 36 guys but there is a reason teams are not trusting them with bigger roles. Per36 stats can be deceiving and for guys like KOQ they mostly come playing against reserves. Such examples are Henson, B.Wright etc.

    Of course he is more versatile than these, he is better, but still I don't think he is good enough. I'm really not sure if I'd give up Vonleh (although he seems a lost bet) for him. He won't make any real difference and I'm sure even if Vonleh doesn't become really valuable he can easily be as good as KOQ in 2 years.

    And from all these guys I'd still prefer Aminu who I think would be better to back up the 4 if we find our future PF in this draft and he is locked in a friendly contract for 2 more years. KOQ would be just a one year player as I believe he will reject his player option summer of 2018 and then we will not have any cap space to sign him back or if we do it can cost more than Aminu.
     
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    Portland really needs a backup center so we never have to see Ed Davis or Meyers Leonard try to play center again.
     
  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I view O'Quinn as a one year filler while we develop our PF of the Future. If we like him and he opts out after 2017-18, we would have leg up on re-signing him of we can move one, or two of our bloated contracts. The reason he doesn't get more minutes in NY is because he has Prozingas and now Henangomez ahead of him. They have their PF of the Future and we don't.

    I never suggested we give up Vonleh to get O'Quinn (I suggested the CLE pick + Ezeli's non-guaranteed contract for O'Quinn + filler). We've seen improvement in Vonleh since Nurkic has arrived. I think O'Quinn would be another player that could push Vonleh and help him improve.

    O'Quinn can back up the 5, and do it well. Aminu can't. Unless you think Meyers Leonard can morph into a solid back up center, then that's another need to be addressed. O'Quinn is better than any PF we currently have on the roster and he's also better than any back up center we have. He's limited, but efficient, offensively (hence the 2015-16 Ed Davis comparison), but an absolute beast defensively and an elite rim protector (hence the healthy Festus Ezeli comparsion). He addresses multiple needs, is cheap and was supposedly available at the trade deadline.

    The title of this thread isn't "FINDING Our PF of the Future: Number 1 offseason priority", it's "FINDING A PF: Number 1 offseason priority". That's why I brought up O'Quinn.

    BNM
     
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    Yes but it seems like the Celtics are maybe not giving him enough credit, I don't think he's starting for them. But I guess you're right, they have a good enough coach/front-office to appreciate what they have in him
     
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    I think Olshey will pick up two SF/PF draft picks and play one, package the other. Miles Bridges from Michigan State 16ppg, 8 reb and .481 FG%. Johnathan Motley from Baylor 17ppg ,9 reb ,.490 FG%
     
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    Did you mean NONE of the Morris twins?
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    He should have, but he probably didn't.
     
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    I wish Markkanen could do anything basketball related in addition to his elite shooting skills. He would make a great PF on this roster. Remove his shooting, and he makes Meyers Leonard look good.

    Markkanen is probably the best shooter in the draft at any position. But he is a 7’er that can not defend his grandmother or block a shot. We drafted that exact same PF, (but 6’ 9”) a few years ago, Luke Babbitt.

    Markkanen is not a starting caliber NBA PF, he is a one trick pony. And when his shot is not falling, he will lose you games. He could be a spark plug off of the bench, but that is his ceiling. When I hear he maybe the next Dirk and DX has him going #7, it makes me wonder at how overrated the rest of this draft is. This draft is very weak in bigs. Look elsewhere for our PF help.

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    When you can upgrade your team with a better player you try to do it but we don't know how Olshey feel about these guys.
     
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    Can Aminu get brain surgery to repair his torn basketball IQ?
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I don't know that Philly will trade Saric. Covington could be had for relatively cheap. I was talking up Marvin Williams this summer. He would fit really well next to Nurkic. I'd love to be able to trade for him. Not sure what the Hornets would ask for in return. Ibaka of course would be awesome, but hes not going to be cheap this summer and the Blazers won't be able to afford him. Kyle O'Quinn really? Wouldn't touch either of the Morris twins with a ten foot poll. Not no, but hell no on Randle. Amir Johnson would be good alongside Nurk. I have always liked Olynyk, but isn't he more of a center? He would be a good choice for backup center, as well would Larry Sanders. We have picks to make a trade happen. Hopefully Olshey can trick someone into taking Leonard. We could also just draft some new prospect or keep our faith in Vonleh who has begun to come out of his shell, though either of those options would not accelerate our timetable. Dame and Cj aren't getting younger, There is a window Olshey is going to have to jump through sooner or later before it closes.
     
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