MVP Race- According To The Mouth Breathers....

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Ranking Top 4 MVP Candidates according to advanced stats.......

    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...rook-harden-lebron-kawhi-nba-mvp-best-metrics

    Won't put the whole article on here, but here are some of the more interesting stats....
    Wonder how some of you Westbrook and Harden haters will feel after checking this out. They are both having historical seasons whether you like them or not. Amazing thing if you think about it, the opposing team's defense is focused in on these guys as well. Zeroing in on stopping them and STILL can't. If Dame was putting up these type of numbers, you'd send him directly to the Hall of Fame this summer!
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    And the winner is.....
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    CJ when news came out about KD leaving:

     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    I thought HCP was a Westbrook hater
     
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    No, Westbrook is an HCP hater.
     
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  5. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    He tried to bitch me a few years back, so as a person I'm no fan. But if you've read on here, I'm a huge supporter. I think I started to really appreciate his greatness when KD went down for the first time and he carried that team. Also love Harden and Kobe.

    I think I learned my lesson of hating on players when I was kid and despised Larry Bird watching him dominate every Sunday on CBS! As soon as I was old enough to respect how amazing a player he was, it was Dream Team time and too late. So I have always watched players with a different eye ever since.
     
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    Harden will be MVP.

    /close thread
     
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  7. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    No way FAMS! You can't do what Westbrook has done and NOT give him the MVP! JKidd said as much last night.
     
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    It's Westbrook to me and not really even close..he's single handedly put his team in the playoffs and had a record setting year doing it....Harden and Lebron have more help and Kawhi as great as he is has allstars all around him...Spurs rest their franchise players way too much to give them the nod.
     
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    I think the MVP should be from a top tier team because they are putting up impressive stats while winning and having a shot a title, if you don't have a shot at a title why are you the MVP? This knocks WB down for me as well as not impressed by the TD's with WB because he is doing it by essentially having the team funnel him rebounds and not actually contesting shots instead positioning himself to run in for the rebound regardless if its his man shooting or someone eases. He also assist hunts when he is close to 10, its not a bad thing to pad your stats but to do it as blatantly as he does it is almost like he is Ricky Davis out there. In a season where there aren't 3 other good cases for MVP you might be able to eventually sway me to WB even on a team that wont get passed the first round.
    Oscar Robertson didn't win the MVP when he avg a triple double either.
     
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    Lebron's "help" gets that team outscored by 8 points per 100 when he's not on the floor. Lebron actually has a bigger impact on his team's performance than Westbrook does on his. He just does it without dominating the ball at a league-record level.

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    I'v never bought that Harden has that much more help around him then WB, he does have more but its not that much more imo. OLadipo/Kanter/Stevenson/Gibson/Roberston are all good nba players.
     
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    If Westbrook doesn't win MVP it'll be a flat out travesty. It's not even close as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    I am not saying Harden should win necessarily but that is what I see happening.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
    Look at the numbers of the player who DID win the the Big O's season MVP son.
    And as far as critiquing a player on HOW they get there assists? C'Mon you're better than that I assumed. To compare him to Ricky Davis is enough to block your ass. Always thought you had common sense bro.
     
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    I am not a Westbrook fan at all, but he deserves the MVP. Not only is he averaging a triple double, but he is is the sole reason the Thunder are in the playoffs. If he doesnt win it, it will be complete bullshit.
     
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    might i add, he is AVERAGING A TRIPLE DOUBLE!!! clear MVP in my eyes.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    And he shouldn't be punished for NOT having talent around him. If you think about it, other teams are zeroing in ON him and he STILL puts those numbers up.
     
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    Here's my question--is Westbrook "carrying" a team that needs him to do everything, or is he stagnating a team full of players that aren't being given an opportunity to grow in his presence? I see he's averaging 24 FGA/game. He's had over 20 FGA in a game 55 times. Any guesses how many times any of his teammates have shot more than 20 times in a single game this season? Yeah, that would be zero.

    I have to wonder if the Thunder would be a better team if he weren't the sole thrust of their attack. Of course, there's no way to know.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Saying the MVP needs to be from a "top tier' team is like saying Hall of Fame status is based on rings won. Adam Morrison has twice as many rings as Barkley, Stockton and the Mailman have COMBINED.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You too Kool-Aid man, you too?
     
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