It's Time

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  1. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

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    The great white hype
     
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    Must take a full decade to build a contender then.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Not yet; we need to weather the Golden Showers storm. Let them run their team out of their window. We are young. We can wait.

    Our window opens in 2018-2019, not a moment before. But if we build the team right, the window can stay open until 2026-2027.
     
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    A team with Dame-Nurk-CJ healthy for at least 70 games wins you around 45 a year. And that's still a middle-bottom of the pack team in the west. We really need to hit on at least one of these picks-- as in borderline all star caliber player in 2-3 yrs. We don't have any assets/tools to get better aside from our draft picks.

    Outside of that, even if we wanted to go all in and get vets, this team's ceiling is 48 wins and maybe a second round appearance. NO destroyed our flexibility with some of these contracts.
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Our record with those three was considerably better than 45 win pace.

    14-6 is a 57 win pace, FWIW.
     
  8. illmatic99

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    Yes, and our lineup with Moe starting last year was 10-4, a 59 win pace. Let's not get carried away with a cupcake schedule and hot streak. That's clearly what Neil did when he said we projected to be a 50 win team this year.
     
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    Nurk's effect on the team's record isn't due to cupcake schedule or hot streak. 20 games is 25% of the season, roughly. Nurk filled a really big hole in the lineup - a C who can defend and score and block shots as well as pass. He gave us a real inside/outside ability.

    Moe does help with his defense and adequate scoring, but I don't think he affects the team's record that significantly.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Mo is fantastic as a 4th/5th guy or energy guy off the bench. A lot of teams would love to have him on their roster. But you definitely can't build around him. He works great off of Nurk cutting and slashing.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    You really think we are close to a 60 win team with Nurk playing all year? Because that's what you're arguing.
     
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    If we have Nurk, is there a team (other than the Warriors) that you would say we have absolutely no chance to beat four times out of seven?
     
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    Spurs in the playoffs are pretty tough.
     
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    But not impossible. I agree they are a machine designed to wake up for the playoffs, but I think we take that series to seven with a healthy Nurk.
     
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    I would say 50-55 as is.

    And BC is correct on her question. With our big three healthy all season who else in the west could take us in a best of seven? SA? Utah? Doubt it.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    No Duncan. I think the days of them rolling the league are over. Parker and Manu are both ancient, and frankly I think LMA is a joke. Kawhi is the only player on that team that I fear.
     
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    I think you leave this roster AS IS with everybody staying healthy, this is a 50 win team. You package these pics with a couple of our high priced vets and you have a 55 win squad.
     
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    I honestly think they will come out of the West. Don't know why. I just feel the supporting cast will give the Dubs a tough time.
     
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    It sure seemed like we were that good with him healthy for those 20 games.

    I think Nurk is worth more than +4 wins.
     
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