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  1. Trackjack

    Trackjack Well-Known Member

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    Bell will go 2nd round to someone I don't think he is 1st rounder.
     
    Trackjack, May 12, 2017
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see someone take him late in the first.

    Favors and Diaw will both be UFA's next off-season. Utah could look at getting Bell as a potential replacement for those two down the line. They will also be paying a lot to retain Hayward this year which I think is likely to happen, so the idea of drafting a potential starting PF on a rookie scale contract in this draft is likely for Utah.

    Utah owns picks 24, 30, 42. and 55. Bell is likely to be gone by 42, so its entirely possible that they draft him with their 30th pick, maybe even their 24th depending on how he's viewed after pre-draft workouts. They, like Portland are looking at the possibility of packaging picks to move up in this draft and get 1 or 2 guys who they think can develop into big time performers.
     
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    Hmm this might change my mind. Yes I know no one is guarding him, but if he works at it for a year....

     
    Pinwheel1, May 12, 2017
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    Andre Drummond is not a good example. He did float all the way up until the NBA. Each time he moved up a level in competition, he performed worse and never used his size. He dropped in the draft because of it. Should have been a top three pick. That drop lit a fire under him and he finally figured it out. I don't think most guys can turn it on and off like that.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Fonz's best players in the draft Vol.1

    PG:
    Markelle Fultz
    Dennis Smith Jr
    De'Aaron Fox
    Frank Ntilikina
    Lonzo Ball

    SG:
    Terrance Ferguson
    Malik Monk
    Donovan Mitchell
    PJ Dozier
    Dwayne Bacon

    SF:
    Josh Jackson
    Justin Jackson
    Jayson Taytum
    OG Anunoby
    Semi Ojelay

    PF:
    Harry Giles (Talent wise, not taking into account medical history)
    Jonathan Isaac
    Ivan Rabb
    Lauri Markannen
    Isaiah Hartenstein

    C:
    Jarrett Allen
    Ike Anigbogu
    Justin Patton
    Zach Collins
    Jonathan Jeanne

    Dark Horses (6th man)
    PG- Kadeem Allen
    SG- Sindarious Thornwell
    SF- Rudions Kurucs
    PF- Jordan Bell
    C- Caleb Swanigan

    Takeaway - This is a draft deep at the 1/2/3 position. It is significantly weaker at the 4/5.
     
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    Yeah, not sure where "stroke has improved" is coming from. Still doesn't look fluid or natural to me. Doesn't mean he'll never be a shooter, but I don't think this video changes his stock at all. Almost any big with NBA talent can makes 3's in an open gym. Doesn't mean you want them shooting them in a live game.
     
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    Watching Day #2 scrimmages and Kadeem Allen's first 5 minutes were great. Got after it defensively, showed burst and shiftiness off the dribble and made the simple play with 4-5 crisp, and on-point passes.

    I'll be very surprised if he doesn't get drafted. Valued skill set + translatable physical tools.
     
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    Jake Layman come on down!
     
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    Sindarius Thornwell is playing like a guy that has a guaranteed 1st round contract waiting for him rather than fighting for his nba life.

    I know a lot of "Draft Twitter" likes this guy, but his approach this week would be huge red flag if I was an NBA front office person.
     
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    PDXFonz, May 12, 2017
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    Seeing where stocks are at now - I'm officially on the Jordan Bell bandwagon.
     
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    Yeah I'm fine with using a first round pick on him.
     
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    HailBlazers, May 12, 2017
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  14. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Jeanne is rising fast!

    Now at #24 on DX's mock.

    After workouts I wouldn't be surprised if he rises into the teens.
     
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    Well. Get swayed.
     
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    Hoping Bell does it, was my favorite player last year.
     
    HailBlazers, May 12, 2017
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    He gave the Ducks basketball, a face, a reputation for toughness. I think he will go down as one if the great college players.
     
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  18. MickZagger

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    Its just horrible logic. Trends are broken, players mature at different levels.

    Its like saying stay away from players from Weber State before Lillard because they'll never be good, there's never been one. Stay away from players from Lehigh they suck, stay away from Bosnian players there's never been a good one in the NBA. Stay away from guys from Wisconsin-Green Bay, or Longwood college.....On and on. Its lazy gossip shit.
     
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    I'm all in for drafting Bell with one of our picks. Love that guy. The energy he brings. Fuck positions, that guys a basketball player. Honestly, he was the only player on this past years Ducks team that intrigues me as an NBA prospect.
     
    MickZagger, May 12, 2017
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    You forgot to add Gonzaga to the AVOID list.
     
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