Politics SPECIAL COUNSEL APPOINTED!

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  1. Further

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    I have no idea if Trump colluded, however I think there is already more than sufficient evidence for articles of impeachment based on trying to interfere with the investigation.
     
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    Here is the opinion of a Clinton supporter.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a...justice-in-firing-james-comey/article/2622875
    http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Dershowitz-Trump-Comey-Flynn/2017/05/20/id/791372/

    It's rather disgusting how most of you Trump haters want to ignore the Constitution. Anything to make bad shit happen.
    I am beginning to hope to see justice find those showing the phony outrage.

    "'Show me the man, I'll give you the crime,'" Dershowitz said. "That's not America."
     
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    You should read the article, there is a great way Jared and Ivanka can fuck up the special council.
     
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    STOP!!!! This accusing citizens of sedition is bs......you by your own standards should convict yourself for sedition against the last president then....double standards Marz......deal with the lack of trust a vast number of people have for Trump ....just imagine he's Obama.....and then try to remember how much support you gave the president then.
     
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    BS....it's disgusting how you want to ignore the concerns that not only citizens have but their elected officials have...you voted for Trump, you have to deal with the voice of the people who have lost all trust in his camp...they are weighing in from both sides of the aisle...I'm a taxpaying, voting, war vet who's completely invested in my country....I can say whatever I want....look that up in the Constitution
     
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    I read this article before...Jared has played good old boys pat each other on the back with the Russians club....Trump said he hadn't had dealings with Russia...he has his lackey's do all the groundwork...
     
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    I don't know if bigfoot exists, but there's lots of "evidence!" but we can't prove it.

    That's how it all sounds to me.

    Trump fired people all along in his campaign. It seems to be his management style. Oddly, those he's fired have remained loyal to him, so it wasn't perceived as vindictive by them.

    What I heard from Comey in his last testimony is that he is superior in his position to (Obama's) Attorney General - that alone is a firing offense. If I were Trump, I'd have been thinking about how he wouldn't honor Sessions' position as Attorney General, either.

    It seems he stewed about that for a week and pulled the trigger.

    Trump did say in the NBC interview the next day that firing Comey was best for the American people, no matter how much worse it made things for himself. Doesn't sound shocked to me.
     
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    I stopped reading the dog's article here:

    As the Trump administration’s been sent into a death spiral over the firing of FBI Director James Comey last week — a failed move to curtail the Justice Department investigation into contact between his campaign and the Russian government — Kushner hasn’t been the “adult in the room” urging caution and scrupulousness. To the contrary, he’s been urging aggression and retaliation.​

    The constitutional scholar that MarAzul cites has it right.

    Death spiral, LOL. Not slanted in the least.
     
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    He talks real tough on Muslims and Mexicans with extreme vetting but can't hire people without firing them....vetting doesn't seem to exist when it comes to Trump's cabinet positions.
     
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    He's still trying to find the leaks in his camp.....loyalty can be disguised and I don't see any proof that people he's fired have loyalty to him....unless he's just given them another job or they want their corporate tax rates to remain cut in half. I read an article this week about how many in his camp are sending out resume's to get the hell out of his circle. As to bigfoot....if an honest person saw bigfoot and told me...I wouldn't require a carcass to believe that person. It wouldn't have to be on 60 minutes for me to consider the person is telling the truth.
     
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    In my experience, it is valid management style to hire people and fire them when they don't work out. Vetting .... Obama vetted Flynn and he passed.
     
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    He fired Manafort and Lewandowski. They weren't "leaks in his camp" or even disloyal.
     
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    As I said, we don't know this....people take high paying positions in govt generally want to keep the good graces of the boss....yet they may not like him at all...they probably do like their paycheck and benefits and perks....sure, I'll wear a red maga hat Donald!
     
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    High paying. What government are you talking about?
     
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    2-300k a year with benefits and perks......I call that a high paying job.....being a paycheck employee sort of takes you out of the CEO pay scale
     
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    These guys make $1M+ in the private sector.
     
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    It's not always about the money....often in DC it's about the resume....after they retire they can cash in on book deals and speaking gigs. I still say 2-300k is a high paying job with perks....some of those perks are about networking...they get to rub elbows with lobbyists and donors and lawmakers.
     
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