Merged: The Draft Thread For Stuff About The Draft Including Thoughts About The Draft

Hope Collins falls to 15, Jackson falls to 20. Trade 26 for two 2nds and draft Bell and Dozier.

That's all final four teams covered.

 

I envy Boston -- Fultz and Zizic is about as good a draft as you'd get. I wonder what they could get for IT?

Zizic would be a surefire top-10 pick in this draft.

Anigbogu looks like he could be the biggest riser on draft day.

 

New York might trade 8 down to 15 to take him.

 

I've arranged myself an invitation to a workout with a 4th division team (a team representing the city closest to where I live), still not the Champions league but it's a foot in the door

 

Why? They might have the opportunity to pick up one of Monk, Isaac and Dennis Smith at 8. At least one of them will be available with that pick and it's fairly likely that it's going to be Smith who has a much higher potential than Jackson.

They could trade Carmelo to get a pick in the 15-20 range IMO. Given Chicago's policy of picking up older players (Rondo, Wade) they could probably acquire their #16 pick for Carmelo + 2nd rounder.

 

You too?

 

If you make the team, will you reveal who you are? Then you'll be a public sports figure, after all!

Maybe Sly can arrange a meet & greet with you.

 

I live in Israel, it would require a plane ticket

 

You go Zohan

 

Is English your first language? Would explain a lot.

 

Maybe someone discussed this early, but I was curious about Kevin Pelton's Insider draft value chart. According to an abstract some guy grabbed off there, the 15 pick is valued at 55, the 20th at 33 and the 26th at 18, for a total of 106. That would be equal to the value of the 10th pick. I have no idea how he reached the values and if they would have any relevance to GM's doing the trading. The two higher picks would supposedly be able to get an 11 or 12.
1) 500
2) 300
3) 200
4) 190
5) 180
6) 170
7) 160
8) 150
9) 125
10) 100
11) 90
12) 80
13) 70
14) 60
15) 55
16) 50
17) 45
18) 40
19) 35
20) 33
21) 30
22) 27
23) 25
24) 22
25) 20
26) 18
27) 16
28) 14
29) 12
30) 10

 

Jimmy Johnson, former NFL coach of the Cowboys and Dolphins, devised a Draft Pick Trade Value Chart in the early 90's. Apparently Pelton used that as a guideline when putting together an NBA draft trade chart.

Here's an NBA draft trade chart from Fansided.com

And here's an interesting article from 82games.com Assessing the Relative Value of Draft Position in the NBA Draft

 

Hebrew is my language, learned English from talking to you guys (and from movies, songs, TV shows...)

 

Quick, somebody send Vlade Divacs that link!!! It shows that the 15, 20 and 26th picks have a combined value of 6.34, which is more than enough to land the 5th pick (trade value 5.94) in a trade. With David Kahn no longer sabotaging MIN and Billy King no longer destroying BRK, Vlade is the only GM dumb enough to base trade value on an article from Fansided. And, he just happens to own the 5th pick in the draft.

BNM

 

I frankly am at least "starting" to think a guy like Semi Ojeleye with his 240 lb stud frame, elite quickness/agility, and jumping ability might be a better answer than a guy like Leaf or a few others at PF. I am warming up to Semi again as his 42% 3 pt college shooting could allow him to play some SG, SF, and stretch 4 and guard all positions. I mean Leafs wingspan is 6"11, Semi's is 6'10 and he can jump a lot higher (tied for 5th at combine) than Leaf and many others and has more strength and quickness. In the new NBA "multi-taskers" like Semi and Jordan Bell are important components to have on a team, and Semi has shown he can shoot. Don't forget this guy had to sit out almost two yrs of playing "team ball" and had a really nice first season back this last yr. I can't see him having a problem with his strength and quickness guarding most 4's, but I sure can see them having a problem guarding him, and he can play and guard SF's and SGs as well. In the new NBA this kind of versatility with shooting ability is IMO important to have from a few guys at least.

 

Leaf's standing reach is 8'11" (not long) and Semi's is much worse at 8'6". Long arms don't help as much when you can't get them up in the air. If Semi were a tremendous rebounder (Barkley) then maybe, but I think he would be a huge defensive liability.

 

yet if you add his jump to his standing reach who has the more effective height? I know that is not always the case but sometimes it is, and a decent wingspan combined with elite quickness/agility/vertical can cause issues for other teams as well. Plus very few will be able to "body" or move his 241 lb frame and he may be the one more often doing the "moving". The guy has skills and at 26 could be a helluva pick, and he has IMO a lot of room to improve

Jae Crowder is his potential NBA comparison IMO, similar size (Semi a bit taller), similar wingspan, Semis standing reach is 2.5 inches more and his vertical is almost 5 inches more on each jump test.

 

Nobody will trade a mid-1st for Carmelo. I think they trade 8 down if they can get rid of Noah and get a young piece or two.