Merged: The Draft Thread For Stuff About The Draft Including Thoughts About The Draft

No team will really ever run out of minutes for good players. At worst, he starts off with backup minutes behind Nurkic and maybe finds his way into other lineups. Beyond that, considering Nurkic himself is injury-prone, there's a decent chance you'll need the "BPA C" to play bigger minutes. Needs are fluid, and chasing one need with a lesser player only makes you vulnerable when needs change but your talent level is now lower.

I mean, if the difference is so marginal that its virtually nonexistent then yes, you should use need to break ties. But if the difference is significant enough to notice, then I think you either draft that player or trade up or down to get your need player at a spot where he is BPA (or basically tied).

 

I expect teams' scouting and draft boards of bpa to rule the day sorry to disagree. its moneyball

 

I don't see how you are saying anything different from the person you are quoting.

 

because the concept of tiered drafting would negate a BPA if all are equal in that tier

 

I agree with the concept of tiered drafting when trying to value a pick before the draft for potential trade value though

 

I'd agree with lawai'a that most GMs will be operating from a BPA perspective rather than a tiered one. I think tiers are more for fans. I see this a lot, especially in NFL draft discussions, something along the lines of, "Well, there are four receivers of similar grade...one of them will be available at pick X." Sure, one of them might be, but will that be the successful one? All similarly graded players won't have equal careers--some will be better (or much better) than others. The job of sports executives, with their armies of scouts, is to pick the winners (in the stock trading sense, not "ringzzz" sense). There may be a "tier" from 15-22 as far as fans are concerned, but the GM should be trying to determine which of those players will be the best, not considering them all equal and fungible assets.

 

Posting of clownzano....bad juju.

 

Let me make up a brief hypothetical...

You're in charge of the draft for the Blazers, and your staff has come to a consensus based on qualitative and quantitative measures. Here are the results
for 3 players in range for pick #15...

Player 1 (PG): Overall Rating 83.6% +/- 7.1%
or
Player 2 (SF): Overall Rating 82.2 % +/- 6.1%
or
Player 3 (PF): Overall Rating 77.4 % +/- 15.2%

Which one do you pick? The difference in the ratings between the first two is well below the margin of error. It would be a mistake to take Player 1 without
considering position of need. In this case, you do. So, if you need an SF more than you need a PG (which we do!), then draft Justin Jackson, er, ahem, I
mean Player 2.

If you have decided that you really want a PF, you STILL don't draft Player 3, regardless of his "upside." That would be "drafting for need".

p.s. I think @Reep is right, you're probably not disagreeing with me, I just wanted to clarify things a bit.

 

what's the criteria for your point system? what attributes you value most and scale it against other potential positives or how do you weight negatives in the whole equation?
I doubt that the prospects would come out so evenly matched but suspect the teams culture and players fit in this respect would weigh more greatly than position of need. most of the players in our tier of picks are flawed and none ready to contribute immediately. NO seems to have a preference for more finished players so Jackson would likely receive a nod for that over position I suspect. IMHO

 

ps I also suspect that the players that worked out for the blazers and the impressions they left would weight the decisions heavily one way or the other all things being equal when put on the scales with the blazers on the clock

 

Congratulations, you just drafted Meyers Leonard.

 

Or Giannis.

 

They should make an updated version of The Oregon Trail and add "You just drafted Meyers Leonard" to the list of bad things that can happen to you and ruin your journey.

 

Can someone Photoshop this? Please?

 

That made me laugh pretty hard.

 

Totally adding this to my sig.

 

Guys, comparing Meyers Leonard to dysentery is pretty over-the-line unfair.

Dysentery passes much more quickly, even if through the sweet release of death. Meyers lingers.

 

LOL