Merged: The Draft Thread For Stuff About The Draft Including Thoughts About The Draft

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    But that's your opinion. I brought up a ton different comparisons other than white and Duke.

    -Short-armed
    -Undersized
    -Unathletic
    -SGs
    -Bad defenders
    -Struggle to create for themselves and others
    -Good shooters from mid-range and 3
    -Particularly effective coming off pin-downs
     
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    PLEASE create the "Official Kennard - Reddick Thread".
     
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  3. Pridan

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    Lads, can we just move on please!?
     
  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I'm not sure we can.
     
  5. Pridan

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    As someone who, being in Melbourne Australia, can't get to watch and scout college basketball, I enjoy the opinions of those that do.

    The beauty of an opinion, is that they're like an asshole, everyone has one. With draft prospects, like many other things, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    You're all entitled to have your own opinion, no matter what it is, but who bloody knows who's right and who's wrong at this stage? No one does!
     
  6. Sarni

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    Outside Blazers, what moves do people expect teams to make?

    Just my thoughts:

    No. 1: Boston Celtics select Markelle Fultz. Really a no brainer, best player available plus his only major competitor has made it awfully clear that he doesn't want to play there.

    No . 2: LA Lakers select Lonzo Ball, with the outside chance of De'Aaron Fox. Russell moving to SG has to happen as Lakers will almost 100% draft a point guard. LaVar has been trying to sell Ball there for a while but I feel that Fox might turn out to be much better in the workouts. Basically, if Fox can show that he can shoot, he will be a better prospect insantly. I still feel it's going to be Ball.

    No. 3: Philadelphia 76ers, this is a tough one. Most mock ups have them selecting Josh Jackson here but I don't see him as a great fit. If Ball falls there, they will take him but if he doesn't, IMO it makes more sense for them to go for a pure scorer like Tatum or a point guard of the future like Fox than Jackson. Still feel they will take Jackson.

    No. 4: Phoenix Suns take Jayson Tatum (or Josh Jackson). If Jackson falls there, they will take him. If he doesn't, they should take Tatum. They need a small forward and they don't really need a point guard when they have Bledsoe.

    No. 5; Sacramento Kings take De'Aaron Fox. This IMO is almost nailed on, as long as Lakers do not take Fox at 2. If Fox falls here, he'll be selected 100%, Kings need him and he's excellent fit next to Hield. If Fox doesn't fall here, I am expecting Kings to take Tatum (because Fox going higher IMO means that Tatum is available at 5) and then hope that Ntilikina or Smith Jr are available at 10 - very small chance of that happening, so I guess they'll try hard to move up.

    No. 6: Orlando Magic select Dennis Smith Jr. I don't think they are that sweet on Payton, and Smith has potential to be properly great. Alternatives are Malik Monk and Jonathan Isaac but I reckon Smith will be considered BPA here.

    No 7: Minnesota Timberwolves, I think they will try to trade down from here as they still need to give time to Dunn at point guard (so no Smith/Ntilikina), and don't really need another slasher (Isaac). I think Monk would be good fit there but they also need to give LaVine minutes. Won't be surprised if #7 gets traded to Sacramento for #10 and getting rid of Pekovic contract. Then Sacramento could select Isaac here.

    From no. 8 it's basically the best player available for 3-4 next picks. IMO good fits are Markkanen at Kings (if they get Fox at 5), Collins at Denver, Mitchell at Hornets.
     
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  7. TBpup

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    A lot of mention has been made about moving the #15 pick but Portland can't do that....at least not until after the Draft. Because they traded away last year's pick, they can't trade this years pick until after it is no longer a Draft pick and becomes a player. (Ted Stepian rule if I understand correctly.)

    So in any consolidation of picks trade, either #15 can not be included or Portland would be picking a player for another team to be traded either after the Draft or after July 1st, I'm not sure which. Someone please clarify if needed.
     
  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You don't understand correctly. The Stepien rule only applies to the holding of future picks. It doesn't matter how many prior years' picks had been traded, as long as a team has at least one first round pick in every consecutive pair of future drafts, they are within the Stepien guidelines. Blazers could trade all three picks this year for a player if they want as long as they have a pick in 2018. Further, even if they were to do so, once the draft is over they would have the latitude to trade that 2018 pick as long as they have a pick in 2019--and that pick doesn't even have to be their own pick, just needs to be somewhere in the first round.

    All the Stepien rule requires is that a team cannot make a trade that leaves them without a first-round pick in two consecutive future drafts--nothing more restrictive than that.
     
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    Okay, so it's the discussion of trading this year's #15 and next years 2018 1st round pick that is problematic?
     
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    Nope, that would be ok as well to do. You just need to have a pick, doesn't have to be your own. By possessing 20 and 26, 15 and our 2018 are movable together.
     
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    I'm not saying I don't like the guy, just wonder how that will work with Dame and CJ. First concern is what happens when we play a team with a guard who can post up? Mitchell isn't that kind of guard to be able to defend that.

    Also, do we really need another short, non-point guard? You would assume a three guard rotation with Dame and CJ as starters. When Dame sits, then who runs the offense? Turner? It sure won't be CJ or Mitchell. That is why Napier was a good fit.
     
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    Worried as in they may be the BPA and also the worst fit at the position we need the least help. I guess you have to take them and hope you can pull a trade.
     
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    Does anybody know who we're having in for workouts tomorrow? The first workout is the 7th right?
     
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    Usually by June I am more excited about the potential draft picks than I am in March. But after reading the draft threads every day for the last couple of months..... the less excited I get. Right or wrong we have pretty much picked apart every prospect. I am ready to trade......
     
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    wish I could super like this post. after t0p 5 or so too many flaws for absolutes about future stardom.
     
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    The 76ers are reportedly listening to offers for the 3rd pick as they are assuming Fultz and Ball are off the board by the time their turn rolls around.

    And no, I didn't post this to say that means we can or will go after their pick. Just interesting since they are normally looking to add more high picks. They might truly be ready to cash in for an established star (if they can get one to come or keep).
     
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    That is great to hear! Meyers, Crabbe and #26 for #3, Dario Saric and Richaun Holmes. I'll take your comments off the air. :bgrin:
     
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    And at 12 the blazers select...Luke Kennard.

    *board explodes*
     

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