OT An issue nobody talks about in this country

And news flash:

We don't need people to Whitesplain how we need to fix our problems. We don't need you as our white saviors because you've never been them before.

White people have been our oppressors....

There are many many white people that don't give a shit about what's happening in Chicago and only use it as a cudgel against us when we complain about police violence.... Some are in this forum. So fuck all of those people who fucking do that shit!!

 

It's like the London attacks. People here jump on the twitter and Facebook to chime in and look so caring and sad. When in reality they don't really give a fuck (this is their cue to get mad to look even more caring)

Same with Chicago. If we ain't there we don't give a shit.

I ain't gonna whitesplain nothing although I hate that term as much as mansplaining.

 

I could give a fuck less what anybody thinks about that term. I will use it and use it everyday because it happens to me every fucking day. White people coming in trying to tell us how to fix our problems when really they don't give a shit. It's nothing new.

 

Let me whitesplain why I don't like whitesplain. I'm listening to Public Enemy RIGHT NOW.

 

Just realized why I don't like whitesplaining. It's because you're right that deep down I really don't give a shit. I think things are right and wrong... example.... Cop pulls me over for bullshit and gives me a ticket. I'M FURIOUS.

Cop pulls over Orion Bailey and does same shit I think it's fucked up but I'm not losing sleep over it.

Back to mansplaining, I guess I'm visualizing someone saying "pull your pants up sonny and go to school and get a job" and them expecting that to fix everything. Or telling inner city kids to go to a library

Nobody cares what I think so I'll just continue to state my displeasure with a given situation and if anyone cares I'll tell them what I would do. The max thing is a perfect example, got major heat because it didn't seem to me like anyone should have died (except the nutjob) but they did.

 

No one talks about? As dviss said, it is very much talked about. I see people like Joy-Ann Reid on her program talking about it. I hear Black Lives Matter, yes, talking about it. So someone who does not follow a discussion claims it isn't happening but he is an expert? I don't blame dviss for being pissed off.

Related: headline in today's SF Chronicle: Study shows Oakland Police more polite to whites.
I'm really astonished.

 

I don't understand this mindset.... how will we ever address violence in general if we don't talk about it? And how can we talk about it if we can only share our opinions about violence against people of our same race? I just think it's the wrong way of looking at things.

I'm curious about that 84% of white on white crime..... does that include suicides? Domestic violence? I know that a large portion of gun violence in general is from suicides, which is terribly sad, but I also think it changes the way we should look at gun violence.

The best way to address violence is to look at the cause. Not all violence is caused by the same thing. I suspect that gang violence can really be traced back to the war on drugs, which is a whole other issue in and of itself. If drugs were legalized, how much of that violence would go down? The war on drugs is a horrible thing that has affected a great many people.

Our country has gotten involved in global politics because of genocide. We interceded in Somalia. We went to Serbia. We get involved when there is senseless killing going on. Why can't we do it in our own country? Was it "whitesplaining" when we sent troops to Somalia? Were we whitesplaining to the Somali warlords who were preventing aid from getting to starving people? Sometimes an issue is bigger than black and white, and to disregard someone's opinion (if it is a constructive one) simply because they're white is silly to me, and not productive.

 

whitesplain lol
well hey sorry I am not doing what everybody else you love does. I mean every white person you know probably constantly tells you that you are a victim so I mean your reaction to this doesn't surprise me. So as a white man I can't have an opinion on an issue I find to be pretty shitty but you can talk to me about "whitesplaining" and what I can and can't talk about? naw, sorry man that's not how it works. We are all humans. I can talk about it and it's an issue I don't know why you are trying to say it's not. It's a serious issue within the black community, you can't say it's not

 

Oh So now you are assuming I don't give a shit. I kinda do. I kinda hate seeing teenagers and kids getting into gang violence and dying. Anybody for that matter. It's pretty fucking shitty. You think I made this to piss YOU off. A black person. No I didn't. I made it because it's a serious issue nobody talks about and when I express I do you try to shut me down and say I am whitesplaining? lol. Oh okay so I can onmly care about black issues YOU want me to care about. Okay okay, logic...

 

The issue with him bringing up white violence is nobody is denying it. Yeah no shit, white people make up what? 70 percent of America? don't you think it's kind of alarming that blacks make up 13 percent and there is that much black on black crime going on? Dviss is what we call a a victim. One of those dudes that has white friends that constantly tell him how he is a victim of society and all this shit, hence why he used the word whitesplaining. It's the type of shit that has brainwashed him thinking a white dude like me can't have an opinion on black issues and if I do have an opinion, I am just the fucking worst. Get a grip, have a conversation without tripping out.

Could you fucking imagine if a black person was talking about some white issue and I came in like "I don't need you to fucking blacksplain me, you are an oppressor, etc....

for fucks sake

 

We are talking about Oakland...

This mentality is retarded. I know that racist and bad cops exist, they totally do, but you gotta remember man, cops have a hard fucking job and they probably get treated like dog shit in these neighborhoods, so I mean it makes sense. It doesn't take a god damn genius to figure out some of these things

 

Would you buttfaces quit chasing him off? I don't agree with a million things he says but I may not seem like it but I'm trying to figure out what whitesplaining really means. I think I get it partly. I think.

 

so, if people you know dont talk about something, it doesnt exist? logical.

Do you think they dont protest enough? That certainly is a fresh take on the subject lol.

blm isn’t just about the loss of black lives. it’s about the lack of consequences of rampant police brutality. But they should protest more things according to you? And exactly why in the ever loving fuck would they ever care about what you think they should protest?

nonsense. There are countless organizations combating it in chicago. And white cops DO hunt down black men. that is a fact, jack.

even in chicago it seems. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/...by-systemic-racism-task-force-finds.html?_r=0

what people? compared to what? Talk radio nonsense.

there are anti-violence groups in chicago working around the clock. and anti-gang groups. and community outreach. and after school programs. millions and millions of dollars and man hours put towards preventing violence. They are all trying to do something about it. Are you trying to do something about it? Im sure they would appreciate the help as a volunteer.

LOL. also, there is a rather serious war on christmas going on.

Every time a black family buries their son or daughter due to gun violence, Im sure there are plenty of people who would beg to differ. maybe you should join an outreach program to help some of them deal with their grief, so you can see firsthand how much the loss of life matters to them.

 

i mean, long story short, you dont know what the fuck you are talking about.

weve seen how this ends. remember this guy?

 

So I am "retarded"? Damn, another slur. And personal insult.

And I am not a man.

Of course without reading the study, or even the article about it, you 1) know what it says and 2) why the difference in courtesy.

Dviss is absolutely right.
And while I am not black I am a woman and have to live with state legislators mansplaining female biology to me ... then making their mansplaining law.

 

Men and women vote. We have elected Representatives. If every one of them is pushing laws you don't like on abortion or Planned Parenthood or just about anything on Earth your recourse is to sue with the ACLU to stop it or vote the people doing these things you hate out of office.

Them's the breaks. Mansplained well enough or do I have to add some more cliches?

To the victor go the spoils.

How about...

“In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”

 

Yeah mansplaining is just going to have to fall under the "tough shit" column but I still want to try and figure out the whitesplaining so maybe I can stop it if I'm doing it.

Hell, I thought pitching riverman shit over poor black kids needing to go to the library by the thousands was counter to that, but what so I know?

 

You're the ultimate virtue signaler. No, cops don't hunt down black men. Saying that is super ignorant, jack. Yes I'm aware of groups in Chicago that do this, if you ever have time out of your days check out the interrupters, a documentary about one of those groups. I see you're here to make an excuse for the blm movement that's great. You still haven't acknowledged it's an obvious problem, way more of a problem than any cops. Check the numbers

 

What I'm saying isn't racist, I know exactly what I'm talking about but maybe if you weren't so brainwashed by this bullshit you would do your research and check the numbers as well as stop saying the most ridiculous shit such as "cops do hunt down black people". Yeah uhhhhh okay.